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Old 10-30-2006, 02:46 PM
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thanks man, appreciate the posts and help! Will print me off a copy of a bodybuilding.com post, and keep to it!

Is it good for bulking? Like im already broad etc, just want to look biiiigg lol if you know what i mean.
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:03 PM
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Hell yeah. It was MEANT for bulking beginners while sending there strength through the roof. Most guys starting out should be able to do this no problem. It has you squatting 3 times a week plus deadlifting and if that doesn't bulk you up nothing will. The key is to start very light and comfortable. Don't get in a hurry with the weight. Even if it feels like nothing just build on it day by day..it will start to get heavy pdq. This will allow you the longest run and the most possible gains in the long run.

Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength Routine:

*note the dip/chin isnt in the original program

Here is a routine from Mark Rippetoe’s book called “Starting Strength”. You can buy the book at www.startingstrength.com. It includes endless useful info that all beginners should learn. But as for the program he suggests, his clients that he gives it to on AVERAGE gain 30-40 pounds in about 6 months or so which is amazing gains.

The program is as follows:

You alternate Workout A and Workout B every other day, 3 times a week. So you could either do Mon, Wed, Fri or Tues, Thurs. and Sat. Depending on what works best for you.

Example:

Week 1:

Monday - Workout A
Wednesday -Workout B
Friday - Workout A

Week 2:

Monday - Workout B
Wednesday - Workout A
Friday - Workout B

Etc.

For the actual workouts read below:

Note: This doesn’t include warm-up sets

**Means this is OPTIONAL**

Workout A
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press
1x5 Deadlift
**2x8 Dips (if you cant do these or no assist machine then do Decline Dumbbell Bench Press with your hands Facing each other)

Workout B
3x5 Squat
3x5 Standing military press
3x5 Pendlay or Bent Rows (or power cleans)
**2x8 Chin-ups (recommended mainly if doing the cleans)

Assistance work:

Most people cant get it through there head that compound lifts also work your arms Plenty and always Insist on direct arm work. As quoted by Madcow2, “Don't **** with this. Every bodybuilder seems to have Attention Deficit Disorder and an overwhelming desire to customize everything.” If you are one of these people note that you have the option of doing the dips and chins which give PLENTY of arm work. Abdominal work is fine to do also if needed.

I recommend weighted decline sit-ups and/or Hanging Leg Raises at 2x8-10.

Weight:

As for the weight, make sure that you use the SAME weight throughout the sets. For example if I do the first set if Squats with 200lbs then I do the other 2 sets of squats with 200lbs.

Every week make it a goal to increase each of your lifts by 2.5%. Meaning if I lifted 100lbs for my Bench Week 1 then Week 2 I would try for 102.5lbs. If I did 200lb Squats Week 1 I would try for 205lbs in Week 2. Sometimes you will be able to do more but don’t mess with your form just to lift more.

Warm-up Sets:

Before all your working sets it is best to do a few warm-up sets. Specifically for your first lift. You don’t have to do the whole thing for the other lifts but definitely the first.

What you do is you ramp your weight up to your working sets.

For example:

2x5xbar (sets x reps x weight)
1x5x85
1x3x125
1x2x155

And the working set weight would be 175.

If you are lifting your working sets under 150 I would cut out the 3rd warmup set of 1x5 because it wont be needed.

The Lifts:

**Used references and quotes from Madcow2 and Bodybuilding.com**

Barbell Squat: These should be full range Olympic style squats. Use the full range of your body - that means as low as you can go which for almost everyone is past parallel. If the top of your thighs aren't at least parallel it's for sh!t. If you think this is bad for your knees going low, you and whoever told you that are relying on an old wives tale. Anyone who knows the human body will tell you that below parallel is MUCH safer on the knees whereas parallel and above put all the sheer right on them and doesn’t allow proper transfer of the load to the rest of your body (this is how your body was designed).

Rest a barbell on the upper portion of your back, not your neck. Firmly grip the bar with your hands almost twice your shoulder width apart. Position your feet about shoulder width apart and your toes should be pointing just a little outward with your knees in the same direction. Keep your back as straight as possible and your chin up, bend your knees and slowly lower your hips straight down until your THIGHS ARE AT LEAST PARALLEL TO THE FLOOR. Once you reach the bottom position, press the weight up back to the starting position.
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:13 AM
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Yeah, i read that thanks.

I was trying the squats (for the first time) with about 55 lbs (shit i no), just to get the feel of it, felt like it was working my legs and shoulders or back.. this is right yeah?
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:26 AM
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Afternoon, I have just recently joined the site and have been catching up on the threads. I agree that for the best overall gains in strength and size come from the compound movements (bench, squat, deads) and especially for the beginner you don't need too much more than that.
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Yeah, i read that thanks.

I was trying the squats (for the first time) with about 55 lbs (shit i no), just to get the feel of it, felt like it was working my legs and shoulders or back.. this is right yeah?
You really shouldn't be working the shoulders when doing squats. Maybe you have the bar positioned incorrectly. I try to lay the bar across my traps.

You are feeling it in your back probably because form is off and leaning forward and, thus, doing a good morning-type movement at the top.
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