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Old 01-12-2006, 10:50 PM
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Hey guys, I've decided that I definately wanna get built, so I think I should start cutting. I think my mass is good enough to start. I'm 18, about 6 ft and somewhere around 200-215 pounds.

Ok, so now the problem, I know that in order to get good results I'd have to go on a diet and do cardio, correct?

Well the thing with me is that I suffer from chronic migraines and I get them when I haven't ate in a while. The thing is it takes quite a lot to get me full and in order to prevent these headaches I end up eating often. And when I don't eat, I pretty much have to drink pepto bismol to hopefully prevent any gas pains. I even end up eating all the way till i go to sleep like 3 in the morning.

What my day is usually like:

-Wake up and drink a bowl of Special K corn flakes.

-About 4-5 hours later I'll buy a hero if I have cash. Ham, cheese, lettuce, tomato, salt, black pepper, vinegar/oil. If not, I'll eat a bowl of Ravioli.

-Another few hours later I'll probably eat a bowl of ravioli, drink an ensure if I have any, or make a bologni and cheese sandwich.

-Munch on whatever I can find if I still get hungry before I go to sleep.

-On weekends when I'm home from school I'll eat rice and peas with oxtail or cooked down chicken for dinner.

I also drink a lot of water. I'm now thinking about creating a routine. Something that will increase the size of my muscles and cut/define them along with something that will help me lose fat.
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Old 01-13-2006, 05:46 AM
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welcome.

OK.

what you eat in a day by your example is not even close to what you should be eating for even cutting, i.e. you will actually eat more for cutting compared to what you have posted as your "diet". In your cut diet you will most likely have to eat 2000-2200 calories a day. From your pic I would say you have about 165-175 lbs of muscle. So I would use that as your starting point when you start figuring your diet. What I would do is just start reading all the articles and posts on diet you can and use your lean body weight to figure out your diet. Then when you get that down start upping your cardio till you get to about 5 days of cardio, everything else will fall into place.

Also, how long have you been working out?
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Old 01-13-2006, 06:17 AM
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I wouldnt suggest cutting at this point. If you havent trained in the past, starting off at a caloric deficit will most likely frustrate the hell out of you and kill your motivation to get in shape.

IMO a clean bulking routine would be of perticular benifit to you, and you will most likely see very good body recomposition from it. (replacing fat with muscle)

you need to build muscle before you can cut up and show it.
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:36 AM
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welcome.

OK.

what you eat in a day by your example is not even close to what you should be eating for even cutting, i.e. you will actually eat more for cutting compared to what you have posted as your "diet". In your cut diet you will most likely have to eat 2000-2200 calories a day. From your pic I would say you have about 165-175 lbs of muscle. So I would use that as your starting point when you start figuring your diet. What I would do is just start reading all the articles and posts on diet you can and use your lean body weight to figure out your diet. Then when you get that down start upping your cardio till you get to about 5 days of cardio, everything else will fall into place.

Also, how long have you been working out?
I've been working out every now and then. I haven't made a routine yet or followed one. I usually do some cardio and some sit-ups, push ups, leg raises, and full body crunches.
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:38 AM
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I wouldnt suggest cutting at this point. If you havent trained in the past, starting off at a caloric deficit will most likely frustrate the hell out of you and kill your motivation to get in shape.

IMO a clean bulking routine would be of perticular benifit to you, and you will most likely see very good body recomposition from it. (replacing fat with muscle)

you need to build muscle before you can cut up and show it.
I see what you're saying. The only reason I haven't thought about bulking was because I believed that it was for those who were trying to gain weight along with muscle.
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I see what you're saying. The only reason I haven't thought about bulking was because I believed that it was for those who were trying to gain weight along with muscle.
I understand, what i am suggesting is more of a body recomposition. you want to build strength and add lean muscle, as you do so your body will adjust and your metabolism will increase due to the added muslce.

Whichever way you choose to go, there is a wealth of knowledge on this forum, and we are all here to help.
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Old 01-13-2006, 08:27 AM
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I understand, what i am suggesting is more of a body recomposition. you want to build strength and add lean muscle, as you do so your body will adjust and your metabolism will increase due to the added muslce.

Whichever way you choose to go, there is a wealth of knowledge on this forum, and we are all here to help.
k, thanks. I'll check out some of the articles.
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