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And where would power cleans fit into this routine? It is a combination of lower and upper movements

I would put them on an upper day because, for me, my powerclean is no where near my deadlift so it works my upper and hardly my lower.

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actually, kane: a powerclean is a sort of deadlift variant. i wouldnt put them on an upper day. instead, id do then while warming up for my deadlift itself.

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I knew they were a variant, that's why I compared it to my deadlift.

i think it really depends on how you do your power cleans. if you start them from the floor and/or drop your ass down and essentially front squat them up after you "catch" the clean i would consider them more of a lower body exercise. if you start the clean from your knees or just below (a hang clean) i would consider them more of an upper body exercise

aaahh....i see. my bad, sir my point was that id do them on a lower body day.

i am 99.999999% sure that powercleans HAVE to be done from the floor.

Yeah, powercleans are done from the floor. Starting position is same as a deadlift.

I see your point Anuj. What I'm saying is that if I'm doing 'lower rep' powercleans (somewhere around 5), in that range I can deadlift 300+ but I can only powerclean somewhere around 150lbs (on a good day ). By my logic, my abillity will be limited heavily by my shoulders (upper) and never by my deadlifting (lower).

I didn't factor in the front squat though, even with it in, I still think my shoulders would be the limiting factor. I'm classifying it based on what my 'weakest link' is.

I think both of our views are valid though imho, and it's 6 or 1/2 dozen of the other.

yeah, you are right, power cleans do start from the floor. the only reason that i mentioned the hang cleans is b/c they are part of the "clean" family of lifts and i know that people sometimes confuse them with or mistakenly refer to them as powercleans