We're getting nowhere. This is a forum. The purpose is discussion. Nobody is calling himself a guru. People will disagree with you sometimes. It's not personal and it's not an affront to your 20 years experience. It's up to you to back up what you say and I can tell you that "this is how I feel" is not going to be real convincing.
To tell you the truth, your right. I can't really tell what your are getting at at all. I have no choice but to take what you say verbatim rather than try to grasp some mysterious meaning.
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Originally Posted by Sleeper
After so many years of training you will start to experiance allot of good ole Da Ja Vu. You will listen to a guy write about curls or squats and say " Ive heard all this before".
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Who's talking about curls and squats anyway? You brought up squat recently, not us. We just responded. You've heard everything on this forum before? Goes back to my original question. How much have you read?
I'll blame myself for these posts since I'm the first one who disregarded your 20 years experience and openly disagreed with you. If you disagreed with anything I said you can be honest and open and try to convince me and everyone else otherwise. I promise I would never take it personally. I'm here to learn. We're all here with open ears waiting to gain from yours and anyone elses experience.
If you want to see what people are doing you can look at the Personal Journals section. You could probably help people out a lot.
I'm doing WS4BB. The only personal tweaks are what alternate exercises I choose and when I choose them.
I don't know why you're implying that everything we say is something we read in a book.
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Originally Posted by Sleeper
I think a new guy just needs to get his ass in the gym and do some sets to failure and let the chips fall where they may.
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Well then the next time a new guy comes on for advice you can tell him that! But your talking about experiece. Let me point out that the term I used was unimformed, not misinformed. I personally started lifting when I was around twelve. But for many years I was unimformed. Then for many more years I was misinformed. Sure I got gains but I spun my wheels a lot letting the chips fall where they may and learning from my mistakes. If I had had the benefit of access to some of the information here and the help of good friends...well, if only.
As it is when I talk about my experience I don't count a lot of the time I spent wasting my time in the gym. All those years I spent thinking this is the only way and if I just change this one little thing....
We are all here trying to learn. To share our experiences and our mistakes. And what is wrong with that? If I ask for advice why cant I get some well thought out advice? Even if that advice is get in there and lift some heavy weights.