This is really new territory for me eric, so I'm glad your here to shed some light on this stuff. I'm not doing military presses, or any real direct shoulder work.

Its odd though, my bench has never felt stronger, I think I tend to overtrain shoulders when the routine includes both MP's, and chest work. and then both movements suffer.

Everything you said makes a lot of sense, and there is no reason upping my squat by 5lbs would make much that much more sore the next week, unless my form or something else was off.

How do you feel about taking friday off from time to time, or dropping the wieghts down for that perticular day ... as a deload of sorts. I think that would give me optimum time to heal, and not hinder my numbers come the next monday. just a thought.

thanks again eric.

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