Eric, sorry for the late reply, sir.
ive been busy with stuff and i just wanted to wait a bit before actually replying.
so, here is my reply:
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But you were progressing well and actually quite quickly. That's the thing. Everything was going fine so there was no need to take unecessay risks. If you had put on 235 or even 245 you probably would have been fine and even been able to make 10 pound jumps if you wanted. But I would rather see you take your time and add a rep or two and things like that. Because that is just the kind of thing that gets the back strong and ready.
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yeah ur right. i didnt look at things like that. its only now that u plotted out my progress for me that i understood what i was doing. and i was doing pretty good. but at the time i wasnt focussing on any of this because i was too busy being obsessed with the possibility of me nailing 315x5. fuck. like u said: it was my mistake and this should be a wise lesson for me to stop trying to reach that and actually (both mentally and physically) start off with deadlifts on a totally clean new slate. i will do this. its just sad that i needed something as serious as this to wise up.
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I doubt very much it will take you 2 years to hit 315, provided you are not to severly sidetracked by your back.
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oh no. i was just exaggerating. my back is actually MUCH better today. not 100% but very close. its feeling good and i think ill be able to do some cardio tomorrow and squats on wednesday. however i dont think i should go heavy on those. maybe ill stick to 185 for 4x6 but if i feel comfortable then ill do 225 for 4x6. otherwise im just going to go by feel. as long as it doesnt pain me there's no problem.
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Hopefully you can do a supported row. One arm rows are probably not the answer since they still tend to put pressure on the core and uneven pressure on the back. So you need something to take the back out of it for a while. I have found plenty of times that cable rows are doable as long as you are very strict. It depends on the injury of course. But if not maybe you have a chest supported row thing you can do or you can do supported rows off a bench...dumbells work good for that. Rows themselves are not something you need to sweat. I always do all sorts of rows and they are all useful and effective in their own way. If you can't do barbell rows it's hardly a tragedy.
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i was thinking of cable rows. infact, i think ill do that today. cable rows.
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In the future, keep in mind that maxing out on deads or making big jumps in general is not something you do very often. You know, a lot, if not all, PLr's only max out deads on comp day. They don't know what's gonna happen until it happens. There's a reason for that. I very seldom try to max out. It's usually enough just to know, or at least being fairly certain of what I can do that is enough. I don't compete so I have no real reason to disrupt my training and progress so it's something I do to reward myself for all the hard and patient work. I have no other yardstick but myself. With that said, it's a good thing to do. But it is something that is planned for. Not something that you decide off the cuff because you "feel good that day" or whatever.
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understood, sir.
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The only other thing I could say that may help is that you have to be able to sometimes look at your training in a very objective way. You talked about pinpointing the fault but many times it's not a pinpoint it's a huge mountain staring you in the face. But when it comes to our own training we tend to turn a blind eye to those mountains. If you had sat back and looked ONLY at your deadlifting with that dispassionate eye that I used, well, it would have jumped out at you.
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probably. but i was too busy focussing on hitting 315x5 in 3 weeks. too bad for me. well, lesson learnt.
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For anyone else who might be reading this, since I know Anuj has learned it, just because the pain goes away from an injury doesn't mean it's "healed up". If you think that you are being STUPID. Just use some friggin common sense. If you cut your finger does it continue to throb during the entire healing process? NO. But what happens if you bang it on something or whatever while it's healing? You BLEED and it HURTS. And yes the two are similar enough to compare in this way. But probably most will have to learn that lesson the hard way.
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yeah u explained this to me a long time ago....yeah this injury is gonna take a while to go. so it will be the slow and steady approach for now, E. well, its always slow and steady but now ill have to be extra cautious. damn these injuries.
anyways, thanks a ton for the help Eric. im going to the gym in abit and ill post my results later.
cheers
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