sorry kane youve pretty much answered what i was just posting before i posted it you must have read my mind! lol :-) i get what your saying i need to basically just start off if anything slightly lighter and then just add small bits to the bar (i suppose this makes sense it means that my strength is always increasing without having to constantly try to sit at my all out all the time) and based on your advice i am going to now scrap my plans to continue trying to find my 1 rep max's