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12-08-2006, 06:13 AM
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Rank: Light Heavyweight
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Talo, I'll be the first to tell you this stuff will yield massive gains for you if you do it right. But it is dangerous stuff.
first, what brand do you have? and are the pills 5mg?
If so, your gonna want to start out with 5mg a day for the first week. and maybe (big maybe) 10mg the second. Then start your pct. I would say for pct go with 2-3 weeks of nolva or clomid, and run your liver protectors (milk thistle, nac) through the whole thing. You will also want to pick up a sesamin product, to help restore lipids to normal ... run that all the way through also.
This is roughly what my first m1t cycle looked like, and I gained 16lbs, and kept 10 of it. Added roughly 30lbs to my bench, squats, and deads. just be careful of the sides, lethargy is a bitch on this stuff, as is lower back cramping. I also tend to get slightly depressed after a cycle, so if thats a problem for you look at getting some Sam-e, or RR.
Whatever you do, dont go with the 2 weeks on, 1 off, repeat. Its a disaster waiting to happen. It makes no sense, to shut yourself down completely for 2 weeks, then take off a week (still shut down), then go back on ...
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12-09-2006, 09:25 AM
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Rank: Lightweight
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: in the deep recesses of your mind
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Originally Posted by hrdgain81
Talo, I'll be the first to tell you this stuff will yield massive gains for you if you do it right. But it is dangerous stuff.
first, what brand do you have? and are the pills 5mg?
If so, your gonna want to start out with 5mg a day for the first week. and maybe (big maybe) 10mg the second. Then start your pct. I would say for pct go with 2-3 weeks of nolva or clomid, and run your liver protectors (milk thistle, nac) through the whole thing. You will also want to pick up a sesamin product, to help restore lipids to normal ... run that all the way through also.
This is roughly what my first m1t cycle looked like, and I gained 16lbs, and kept 10 of it. Added roughly 30lbs to my bench, squats, and deads. just be careful of the sides, lethargy is a bitch on this stuff, as is lower back cramping. I also tend to get slightly depressed after a cycle, so if thats a problem for you look at getting some Sam-e, or RR.
Whatever you do, dont go with the 2 weeks on, 1 off, repeat. Its a disaster waiting to happen. It makes no sense, to shut yourself down completely for 2 weeks, then take off a week (still shut down), then go back on ...
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Good advice, Liver protection is an absoulute must since this is one of the harshest steroids out there. Start with 5mg and try to go 4 weeks if you can increasing 5mg per week, if you can last that long. If your getting good gains no need to increase since you will only increase the sides. Lethargy is a bitch.
Nolva and clomid is recommended for PCT
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01-09-2007, 09:07 AM
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Rank: Light Heavyweight
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Alberta , Canada
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I have finished 1 week of this and so far I have put on close to 10lbs ( I know most if not all is water)
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Originally Posted by hrdgain81
You will also want to pick up a sesamin product, to help restore lipids to normal ... run that all the way through also.
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What is a good sesamin product ? This is something that I forgot to look into.....shit, hope it's not a huge deal, but I will start to take it.
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Originally Posted by hrdgain81
depressed after a cycle, so if thats a problem for you look at getting some Sam-e, or RR.
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What is this ?
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