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Thank you for such a warm welcome

I've been spending some hours researching and have found an interesting cycle. Seems to be a popular cutting cycle.

Winstrol
Clenbuterol
Cytomel (T3)

Seems to have everything I'm looking for. Lean mass but not "too much" mass, lots of fat burn with minimul side effects.

Now...where I'm still foggy is the antiestrogen stacks. Would stacking,

Arimidex
Nolvadex

be enough to block any gyno that may occur? Again, I'm only looking to cycle for about 4-6 weeks. Also, what about after the cycle....getting my body back to normal. Is that what things like Clomid are for?

I still have A LOT of research to do. I need to get more confortable with the Anti"gyno" stacks and dosages(of all). I want to be able to map out a COMPLETE program on a calander as far as what to take, how much and when. When, and ONLY when, I'm confortable with a complete plan, will I even consider thinking about where to get the gear.

Another thing....I want to stay away from injectables (if possible) I understand that this can be hard on the kidneys. But, there are a few different oils I can take to help the Kidneys function easier through the cycle. This is another thing I have to research. I don't want to mess up my innards. Is pill form ,for such a short term cycle, really that bad of an idea?

Anyways....this cycle seems perfect for what I'm trying to accomplish. How far off am I so far?

Sounds to me like you just need to tweak your diet a little.

Hmmnn...well let me put it to you as Fpot66(a good bro on this board and at BN) would if you're not ready for injectables then you're not ready for AAS!

But let's say in your mind you are dead set on not using any injectables and you want to use orals. Well as far as the safest oral (but also the priciest) is Anavar. But no matter what it's still a 17AA drug which may be very tough on your liver in the long run.

Are you really dead set on not using any injectables?

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Not dead set against injectables. I'll be honest...the thought of sticking a needle/needles in my arse a couple times a day is not to appealing lol. Ya, ya, I know...what a pu$$y Gotta do what you gotta do though. I would want to do what would be best and safest for my body is all. If injectables were the answer, then injectables it would be. Right now, I'm just exploring ALL my options and trying to learn as much as I can before I make up my mind on what I want to do.

And as far as my diet is concerned. I did a ton of research on that as well and am pretty sure I have that wired. I feel better than I have in a long time. The fat is burning, the muscles are growing, I'm hardly ever hungry but yet hardly ever full. I'm thinking that in a few weeks I'll be ready for some "fine tuning". Hence the thought of taking the AAS route for a short stint.

Anyways, back to my research. Let me know what your thoughts are on the stack I mentioned above. Thanks again for all the input.

Couldn't have said it better myself. :cool:

Well then using T3 is definetly not something youw ant to be using if you are worried about possibile side effects.

If you want to do some clen on a 2 on/ 2 off rotation then go ahead, jsut be aware of proper dosing protocols and managing the "shakes".

WHat would this be for? There is very little chance of gyno from Winstrol as it is somewhat anti-estrogenic itself being a DHT derivative.

Yes...300/100/50 splits.

Fpot66

that winstrol stack cycle is not a walk in the park, thats some serious stuff, with clen and T3. FYI, some form of test, like enenthate, on its own, is best for a FIRST cycle. Also, no AAS cuts fat. stuff like winstrol helps to maintain muscle mass and harden muscles during a cutting cycle. cutting and fat loss is purely down to diet and routine.

If your bodyfat is really that high then you are not really ready for a cycle anyway.you need to concentrate on a clean diet and cardio first to drop your bodyfat down. aas is always the last step once you have reached your natural potential