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derwood23 · #1 05-18-2005, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Snachito

Hmmnn...well let me put it to you as Fpot66(a good bro on this board and at BN) would if you're not ready for injectables then you're not ready for AAS!

But let's say in your mind you are dead set on not using any injectables and you want to use orals. Well as far as the safest oral (but also the priciest) is Anavar. But no matter what it's still a 17AA drug which may be very tough on your liver in the long run.

Are you really dead set on not using any injectables?

Not dead set against injectables. I'll be honest...the thought of sticking a needle/needles in my arse a couple times a day is not to appealing lol. Ya, ya, I know...what a pu$$y

Gotta do what you gotta do though. I would want to do what would be best and safest for my body is all. If injectables were the answer, then injectables it would be. Right now, I'm just exploring ALL my options and trying to learn as much as I can before I make up my mind on what I want to do.

And as far as my diet is concerned. I did a ton of research on that as well and am pretty sure I have that wired. I feel better than I have in a long time. The fat is burning, the muscles are growing, I'm hardly ever hungry but yet hardly ever full. I'm thinking that in a few weeks I'll be ready for some "fine tuning". Hence the thought of taking the AAS route for a short stint.

Anyways, back to my research. Let me know what your thoughts are on the stack I mentioned above. Thanks again for all the input.

Fpot66 · #2 05-27-2005, 10:54 PM

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Hmmnn...well let me put it to you as Fpot66(a good bro on this board and at BN) would if you're not ready for injectables then you're not ready for AAS!

Couldn't have said it better myself. :cool:

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I would want to do what would be best and safest for my body is all.

Well then using T3 is definetly not something youw ant to be using if you are worried about possibile side effects.

If you want to do some clen on a 2 on/ 2 off rotation then go ahead, jsut be aware of proper dosing protocols and managing the "shakes".

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Now...where I'm still foggy is the antiestrogen stacks. Would stacking,

WHat would this be for? There is very little chance of gyno from Winstrol as it is somewhat anti-estrogenic itself being a DHT derivative.

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Is that what things like Clomid are for?

Yes...300/100/50 splits.

Fpot66

wolf97 · #3 06-07-2005, 09:19 PM

that winstrol stack cycle is not a walk in the park, thats some serious stuff, with clen and T3. FYI, some form of test, like enenthate, on its own, is best for a FIRST cycle. Also, no AAS cuts fat. stuff like winstrol helps to maintain muscle mass and harden muscles during a cutting cycle. cutting and fat loss is purely down to diet and routine.

big T · #4 06-21-2005, 12:53 PM

If your bodyfat is really that high then you are not really ready for a cycle anyway.you need to concentrate on a clean diet and cardio first to drop your bodyfat down. aas is always the last step once you have reached your natural potential

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