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I was browsing pre-workout supps such as purple wrath, xtend, and smash and came across an old site that sold superdrol/ Methasteron/2a,17a di methyl-5a-androst-3-one and someone said oxodrol 12 was the same thing (but pills were 12mg instead of 10). I then researched some sites that sold this product and came across EST Methyl Vol (http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/ES11 ) It has the same compund makeup of superdrol, but is it ACTUALLY the compound (2-alpha-17-alpha-di-methyl-5-alpha-androst-3-one) that they claim?

I have no idea, and i've never bought from that site before,but there are better things out there then superdrol, I wouldnt bother with it.

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From the reviews i read on actual superdrol, most users gained 15lbs in i believe 3-6 weeks of use. Whats funny is that both the superdrol makers suggest using a PCT, but recommend their rebound xt and such. The users say you actually have to use clomid/nolva, which is one of the reasons i thought it was the real stuff.

What would you recommend over SD?

Let me take a look, I havent really delt with ph/ps in a while, but i remember there being some pretty nasty issues with superdrol, the gains were good but it destroys lipid profiles, and libido.

I don't really understand lipid profiles (as i just came across it last night while reading about this stuff). And I already have high libido, so I'm sure I wont mind (and neither will my wife since its so high, lol) it coming down a bit. But much appeciated for the help with some research.

Well i've seen many many people talk very positively about HAVOC by RPN nutrition.

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/1147/havoc.html

If I were so inclined I would pick up a bottle too.

Lipid profile is your LDL/HDL levels (or colesterol, good to bad), and this superdrol really fucks it up. I believe it has a detrimental effect on liver enzymes too, but i dont really remember.

Many people have run very successful superdrol cycles, just make sure you have some liver protection, and lipid protection to run with it.

I know about milk thistle, hawthorne berry, and saw palmetto, but what helps lipid profiles? And i just got some blood/urine work done not too long ago and i had LOW, as in out of the normal range, cholesterol. I think the value was like 90 to something and i had 60.

But about all these products, I'm just sorda worried that i'll be wasting my money on some garbag:-/

Anything but. SD is one of the most toxic products in the market. In many cases, such as was the case with me, it HINDERS your workouts. My lower back pain/pumps were so bad that I couldn't think about deadlifts OR squats. If I did, I'd have to sit for at least 5 minutes for the pump to subside.

That was my first and last time messing with anything other than the standard must have's. Sure, I blasted from 252-262 lbs, THICK inside of 3 weeks. But a torn pec (my fault) and the constant pain of feeling like being kicked in the balls radiating up my lower back wasn't worth it.

I won't even talk about the lethargy!!

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So that was the only time you've ever taken juice?

LOL, do they sell "juice" at bulknutrition? It's a prosteroid, not a steroid.

That was the only time I tried superdrol. I've been 100% natural since I started training. In other words, I've been training for 9 years solid completely natural, and 2.5 weeks using SD.