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Old 05-01-2007, 05:33 PM
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Hello I am relatively new to these forums and bodybuilding in general. I have been lifting on and off since last October, but never was very serious about it and have recently just gotten more serious in the past two months. I thought I would post a few pics and get some input from you guys. Id like to acknowledge some obvious things....I have a large amount of BF and I am aware of that! :( Also I realize I have gyno pretty bad, but that is something I will address when I am in better shape. So besides that I guess I am just trying to add muscle and eventually lose fat. Thanks for any input!

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Also I am 6'3 220lbs and 22yrs old.
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looking pretty good there although i would suggest BETTER lighting to accurately see what you look like, alot of ur chest looks washed out by the hard lighting.
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Yeah my digital camera broke and I was forced to use a shitty webcam and the crap lighting. I will get a better camera later on when I have some better results to post.
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looking good dude
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Not bad at all. Some room for improvement, but then we can all say that. Keep up the hard work and you will get the results you want.
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Have you taken steroids in the past to get gyno? Because it just looks like a bit of excess bf to me.
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No I have never taken anything past protein and creatine. I have had the gyno since highschool and it has always stuck with me. I played football back in hs and weighed 260lbs and it was worse then, but its still pretty bad at 220lbs. I am thinking if I keep building my chest and maybe get down to 205lbs it may help??
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I agree with Scorcher. If it's just fat deposition then it's what is called pseudogynecomastia. Gynecomastia is the development of glandular breast tissue...not just fat. If it tends to get smaller at lower bf then it's probably not gyno but just where you body tends to store some excess fat. Don't get me wrong, it could be a mixture of both. Gyno tissue is firm, btw, not soft and tends to be an even ring around and under the nipple. If it's just fat I've heard a lot of guys say it goes away once you slim down enough. But that may not always be the case with isolated pockets of fat and also it may require excessively low levels of bodyfat to achieve. Hopefully that won't be the case here. It doesn't seem very noticeable.

Looking good. I suggest you start hitting the pullups and rows a lot.
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge on the subject I appreciate any input I can get. I am hoping that you are right and it is just fat deposits that go away when my bf % lowers.

I will also incorporate more pullups into my workout as that is def. lacking. What kind of pullup should I focus on since I know there are many different grips and also my gym has like 3 different bars at different angles. As for rows I am doing seated rows and bentover rows and reverse grip pulldowns right now.
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I wouldn't worry too much about the grip. Just whatever you are comfortable with. It won't a make too much difference as for as the back is concerned and will mostly allow a more or less favorable postition for the biceps. Usually I just use regular pullups and will switch to chin-ups to get a few more reps out on the last set.

The reason I don't use chin ups all the time (palms facing you) is because it is an uncomforatable postion for my forearms. A hammer grip is a good trade off between the two but ultimately as long as you progress it won't matter.
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