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pimpsticky 12-02-2008 08:59 AM

A question on Whey Shakes and timing...
I always have a post workout shake, but I don't always have a pre-workout shake. Preworkout shakes depend on how I ate that day and what my macrobreakdown is. If I've got good nutrition/macro all day long, then I figure I'm already fueled up for a workout. However, if I'm lacking, then I'll toss in a pre-workout shake about a half hour before hitting the gym.

The brand I use has 24g of protein per serving... I use 2 servings (48g protein) for each shake because 2 makes the shake thicker and taste better. I'm not worried about sugar because it's artificially sweetened, (it's low carb).

Anyway, I have 2 questions:

Here's my stats:
259 Weight
6ft tall
36 year old dude
34% BF
275 Bench
300 A2G squat
I'm doing a 5x5 program, with a decent amount of MMA cardio. I'm working on loosing about 1-2 pounds of fat per week, while retaining/building muscle.

1) With regard to bioavailability and protein absorbtion, am I wasting money using 2 scoops (48g protein)? Should I split that up?

2) A shake in the morning? I usually stop eating around 8pm and I wake up in the morning around 8. Since that means 12 hours of fasting during sleep... and I want to prevent losing muscle.... would you recommend a quickly digestible Whey shake when I wake up... or will a good breakfast meet my protein needs just as well.


pimpsticky 12-02-2008 09:00 AM

One more thing...
I'm doing a keto diet, so I'm only worried about the protein in my shakes, not carbs...

pimpsticky 12-02-2008 09:11 AM

sorry... one more thing
my situation is a little unique.

My job allows me the luxury of being able to eat what ever I feel like, when ever I feel like, and as often as I feel like.

I cook at home and bring in 4 meals that are spaced apart every 2 hours.

I eat my last meal at 5pm, get off at 6 and am in the gym by 6:30. So I'm usually pretty well fueled up when I get under the iron.

I always shoot for 300g of clean protein. And that protein usually comes from Salmon, Tilapia, eggs and chicken. So, when I walk in the gym, I've already got about 250g of protein for the day. Then Post workout shake gives me another 48g

Pitysister 12-02-2008 10:32 AM

you do have a regular meal after your postworkout shake right?

pimpsticky 12-02-2008 11:27 AM

Yeah... I usually grab some chicken when I get home...

Ross86 12-02-2008 12:57 PM

A good breakfast with protein will work first thing in the morning. Or a whey shake. Doesn't matter. You should be able to absorb 50g of protein at a time.

Frontline 12-02-2008 12:59 PM


1) 1) With regard to bioavailability and protein absorbtion, am I wasting money using 2 scoops (48g protein)? Should I split that up?
You should be fine with 48 grams, there are a lot of myths around how much protein your body can process at once and some people are going to quote you a ridiculously low amount like 20-30g. See Myth #2:

If you go digging around on Google under the term "how much protein can your body process at once" you should find a lot of sources quoted. The extra protein will definately not be wasted, the trick is just not to go overboard on it since the extra calories from the protein could be stored as fat. The truth is there simply isn't any proven limit on how much protein your body can process at once.

Ross86 12-02-2008 01:14 PM

^^^ Yep. I'm going to write an article on digestion rates, enzyme production, etc when I get around to it. Probably after finals are over in two weeks. It's been on my to-do list for several weeks now.

GymnastGirl 12-02-2008 03:43 PM

Stick to red meat!

Ross86 12-02-2008 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by GymnastGirl (Post 72839)
Stick to red meat!

In his post workout shake?

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