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Old 04-06-2006, 07:02 PM
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How much sodium should I take in on a daily basis? I've been eating jerkey quite often and notice it has lots of sodium.
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:50 AM
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There's no official RDA, but sodium balance can be maintained by about 500 mg daily, for the most part. 1100 to 3300 mgs should be adequate. Obviously most of us get a whole lot more that that. If salt is lost through sweat, which contains about 1 gram per liter, then more may be needed, but it can be replaced through normal intake unless you've lost around 8 or more pounds of fluid...

It is recommended that all people consume a low or moderate sodium diet because of the risk of hypertension. About 30 percent of the population is "salt sensitive", with only half of the patients with hypetension being sensitve, however. In a high protein diet, excess sodium might help prevent kidney stones.

Increasing pottasium intake (or calcium) decrease the risk of high sodium.

In general, however, you should probably cut down of the jerky or see if you can find a brand with lower sodium.

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Old 04-07-2006, 09:04 AM
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Jerky is loaded with sodium.. I would stay away from it unless you can make your own jerky.

I try to keep my sodium below 1500mg a day which is hard... but it helps you stay sharp and not look smooth and bloated

make sure and read the labels.. for instance I know a lot of deli meats have something like 740mg sodium per 4 oz.. many of us would eat 8 oz... that would be your daily intake right there.
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:14 PM
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This is interesting...

1. A ten-year study of nearly 8,000 Hawaiian Japanese men concluded: "No relation was found between salt intake and the incidence of stroke." (1985)

2. An eight-year study of a New York City hypertensive population stratified for sodium intake levels found those on low-salt diets had more than four times as many heart attacks as those on normal-sodium diets – the exact opposite of what the “salt hypothesis” would have predicted. (1995)

3. An analysis by NHLBI’s Dr. Cutler of the first six years’ data from the MRFIT database documented no health outcomes benefits of lower-sodium diets. (1997)

4. A ten-year follow-up study to the huge Scottish Heart Health Study found no improved health outcomes for those on low-salt diets. (1997)

5. An analysis of the health outcomes over twenty years from those in the massive US National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES I) documented a 20% greater incidence of heart attacks among those on low-salt diets compared to normal-salt diets ( 1 2 ) (1998)

6. A health outcomes study in Finland, reported to the American Heart Association that no health benefits could be identified and concluded “…our results do not support the recommendations for entire populations to reduce dietary sodium intake to prevent coronary heart disease.” (1998)

7. A further analysis of the MRFIT database, this time using fourteen years’ data, confirmed no improved health benefit from low-sodium diets. Its author conceded that there is "no relationship observed between dietary sodium and mortality." (1999)

8. A study of Americans found that less sodium-dense diets did reduce the cardiovascular mortality of one population sub-set, overweight men – the article reporting the findings did not explain why this obese group actually consumed less sodium than normal-weight individuals in the study. (1999)

9. A Finnish study reported an increase in cardiovascular events for obese men (but not women or normal-weight individuals of either gender) – the article, however, failed to adjust for potassium intake levels which many researchers consider a key associated variable. (2001)

10. In September, 2002, the prestigous Cochrane Collaboration produced the latest and highest-quality meta-analysis of clinical trials. It was published in the British Medical Journal and confirmed earlier meta-analyses' conclusions that significant salt reduction would lead to very small blood pressure changes in sensitive populations and no health benefits. (2002)

11. In June 2003, Dutch researchers using a massive database in Rotterdam concluded that "variations in dietary soidum and potassium within the range commonly observed in Westernized societies have no material effect on the ocurrence of cardiovascular events and mortality at old age." (2003)

12. In July 2004, the first "outcomes" study identifying a population risk appeared in Stroke magazine. Researchers found that in a Japanese population, "low" sodium intakes (about 20% above Americans' average intake) had one-third the incidence of fatal strokes of those consuming twice as much sodium as Americans. (2004)

13. A March 2006 analysis of the federal NHANES II database in The American Journal of Medicine found a 37% higher cardiovascular mortality rate for low-sodium dieters (2006). See their university's news release.


It was taken from the Salt Institute, so obviously they like salt . But they're legitimate studies...

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Study by Einstein Researcher Dr. Hillel W. Cohen Finds that Low-Salt Diets May Be Risky

Feb 22, 2006 -- In yet another blow to conventional medical wisdom, researchers at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University have found that lower salt diets are significantly linked to an increase in risk of dying from cardiovascular disease (CVD): the nation’s leading cause of death that includes coronary heart disease.

In fact, those who had a diet in line with the current federal recommendation to consume less than 2300 mg of sodium per day were 37 percent more likely to have died from CVD and 28 percent more likely to have died from any cause, compared with higher-sodium-intake individuals.

This is the third study this month to challenge prevailing medical thought. Earlier, a study from the federally funded Women’s Health Initiative found that low-fat diets don’t reduce a woman’s risk for developing heart disease or breast cancer. Then, in another WHI study, calcium-and-vitamin-D supplements were shown to be of little help in preventing hip fractures in older women.

In the new Einstein study, published in the February 22 online edition of The American Journal of Medicine, researchers led by Dr. Hillel W. Cohen analyzed data from the second National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES II). In the federally funded NHANES II survey, more than 20,000 Americans from childhood to 74 years old were interviewed and examined between 1976 and 1980. Participants were asked to recall their dietary intake over the previous 24 hours, which allowed their salt (sodium) intake to be calculated.

In 1992, NHANES II looked at the mortality status of participants who had been between 30 and 74 on entry to the study, to learn which of these people had died and what they died from.

In the new Einstein study, the researchers examined the data for a sample of 7,154 of these individuals, to see if there were links between sodium intake and risk of death.

People with lower sodium intakes were found to have a significantly greater risk of dying from cardiovascular disease (CVD) than people who had consumed greater amounts, even after accounting for caloric intake, age, smoking and other known risk factors. (This inverse association between salt intake and CVD mortality was consistently observed in 24 subgroups but not in people who were younger than age 55 at the beginning of the NHANES II study, in non-whites, nor in obese people).

“We found significant associations between lower sodium intake and CVD mortality—and found no subgroup that actually benefited from a lower-sodium diet,” said Dr. Cohen, associate professor of epidemiology and population health at Einstein. “This was an observational study and not a clinical trial, so we can’t really conclude from our findings that low-sodium intakes are harmful. But our study certainly doesn’t support the idea of a universal prescription for lower salt intake.

“The current recommendations are based on several short-term studies showing that reducing salt intake can lower blood pressure—which is not the same as mortality. What we clearly need,” Dr. Cohen concludes, “are long-term clinical trials that move beyond intermediate outcomes like blood pressure so that we can convincingly establish the relationship between salt intake and the risk of dying.”
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