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Old 04-21-2008, 05:11 PM
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Based on what? That's twice as much as the popular "media" reccomendation. The burden of proof is on the water worshipers, so let me have it
Based on the 'average person' needing 2-3L. Someone active, and particularly someone who eats more protein (higher than the RDA's stupid value of something like 40g) should be drinking even more.

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Not exactly. Any beverage with caffeine will pretty much negate the water in it due to dehydration factor. Same goes for a lot of 'energy drinks' that contain some sort of stim.
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Old 04-21-2008, 06:09 PM
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Based on the 'average person' needing 2-3L. Someone active, and particularly someone who eats more protein (higher than the RDA's stupid value of something like 40g) should be drinking even more.



Not exactly. Any beverage with caffeine will pretty much negate the water in it due to dehydration factor. Same goes for a lot of 'energy drinks' that contain some sort of stim.
My question is how do you come up with the 2-3L? Is it based on any tangible evidence or is it just a rule of thumb? That's my main issue, everyone says you should drink x amount but nobody says why or why we know this is the magic number. How does my consumption change if I drink x amount of coffee or x amount of beer? How many litres do I need after a hard night of studying and drinking my face off (coffee and beer)

I'm not going to lose any sleep over it at all LOL. I'm just throwing my opinion into the mix because I'd like to see some hard evidence ;)
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Old 04-21-2008, 06:38 PM
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My question is how do you come up with the 2-3L? Is it based on any tangible evidence or is it just a rule of thumb? That's my main issue, everyone says you should drink x amount but nobody says why or why we know this is the magic number. How does my consumption change if I drink x amount of coffee or x amount of beer? How many litres do I need after a hard night of studying and drinking my face off (coffee and beer)

I'm not going to lose any sleep over it at all LOL. I'm just throwing my opinion into the mix because I'd like to see some hard evidence ;)
2-3L is a basic guideline. Sure, eveyone's different. But it's something to base things off of.

Maybe I'm the only one around here that even thinks about water intake
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Based on the 'average person' needing 2-3L. Someone active, and particularly someone who eats more protein (higher than the RDA's stupid value of something like 40g) should be drinking even more.
IK, 2-3 litres for normal people sounds cool. but, 4-5 litres is a LOT of water. instead of having a number to indicate how muc water to have, i prefer having a general guideline of: drink plenty of water and if at night before you sleep you are feeling thirsty: have some more water!

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Not exactly. Any beverage with caffeine will pretty much negate the water in it due to dehydration factor. Same goes for a lot of 'energy drinks' that contain some sort of stim.
i kinda disagree with this.

soft drinks: most americans mix their soft drinks with PLENTY of ice. this ice melts into the drink and counters the dehydration potential.

coffee: most people always have cofee with some water on the side. even if they dont: coffee does have water content in it.

energy drinks: i hate them so i have nothing substantial to add here.
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IK, 2-3 litres for normal people sounds cool. but, 4-5 litres is a LOT of water. instead of having a number to indicate how muc water to have, i prefer having a general guideline of: drink plenty of water and if at night before you sleep you are feeling thirsty: have some more water!
4-5L isn't all that much IMO. I have at least 4L a day and that's not hard at all. Especially when I go through at least a L during my workout alone.



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i kinda disagree with this.

soft drinks: most americans mix their soft drinks with PLENTY of ice. this ice melts into the drink and counters the dehydration potential.

coffee: most people always have cofee with some water on the side. even if they dont: coffee does have water content in it.

energy drinks: i hate them so i have nothing substantial to add here.
Every time I've been in Texas, no one was drinking water with anything. Maybe you're just in the water drinking mecca of the state or something.

As far as Americans go, I never see people drinking water with their coffee or sodas. And yes, coffee has water in it, but again, the caffeine in it can cause dehydration through diuretic properties.




Fuck, I don't even see the point in arguing this. It's water for fuck's sake. Drink it or don't. I don't care. I keep tabs on mine, as I think eveyone should. But apparently I'm the only one around here that does.
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4-5L isn't all that much IMO. I have at least 4L a day and that's not hard at all. Especially when I go through at least a L during my workout alone.
i didn't say that it's hard. i probably have 4-5 liters myself. i however don't measure it. i go by the color of my pee. if its yellow: it means i need more water. if its transparent: it means im good


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Every time I've been in Texas, no one was drinking water with anything. Maybe you're just in the water drinking mecca of the state or something.
I did not say that everyone has water with coffee. I said some people do. and of those who don't, a lot of people drink water before/after the coffee. this is just my observation.

[quote=IK]As far as Americans go, I never see people drinking water with their coffee or sodas. And yes, coffee has water in it, but again, the caffeine in it can cause dehydration through diuretic properties.

IK, ma'am, i never said anything about americans and coffee you misread.
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