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Pitysister 09-05-2008 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dougz (Post 65738)
Here's an example of what I'll eat in a day that I just put together on fitday:

9am: Breakfast

Rolled oats and cottage cheese

510 cal. (26%F 34% protein43% carbs)

½ cup of old fashioned rolled oats (large grain)
1/8 cup of ground walnuts
½ cup of 1% milk
1 tbsp of brown sugar
1 cup of 1% cottage cheese

12am: Lunch

Chocolate shake 434 cal. (38%P, 27%F, 35%C)

35g of whey protein powder (BioX Xtreme)
1 cup of 1% milk
2 tbsp of cocoa powder
1 tbsp of organic peanut butter
1 tbsp of fructose


4pm: Snack

Chocolate shake 434 cal. (38%P, 27%F, 35%C)


8pm: Dinner

Chicken Salad 685 cal. ( 27% F, 28% C, 44%P)

8oz boneless skinless chicken breast
2 cups of romaine lettuce
1 apple
1 cup of grapes
2 tbsp of salad dressing


10:30pm Snack

Chocolate shake 434 cal. (38%P, 27%F, 35%C)

Total calories: 2497

Ouch! So why haven't I been dropping body fat, along with muscle?

because you cheat 5 times a week :) it doesn't happen overnight.

dougz 09-05-2008 06:03 PM

Well, we'll see what happens when I start getting strict..

But I'll probably be adding at least one more meal so I'm averaging a meal every 3 hours , so about 2800-2900 calories..

Or just stick with 2500?

Pitysister 09-05-2008 07:48 PM

online calculators don't tell the whole story, you just have to try it out and tinker with it...only way you're going to find out.

dougz 09-05-2008 08:06 PM

Going to talk to a trainer tomorrow..

Hope she knows her stuff..

dougz 09-06-2008 08:26 AM

Shoot..

Had to delay meeting with trainer.

Ordered some:

QSE Gold Medal Carbs (MaltoDextrin) 10lbs for $40

http://www.supplementscanada.com/pop...roduct773.html

Prolab Creatine Monohydrate 1000g for $33

Evolution Labs glucEVOL (100% Waxy Maize) 4lbs fo $36

Still not sure wether I just need the QSE Gold Medal Carbs AND dextrose.. It says it has dextrose in it, so..

I couldn't find any Kwick Karbs, so hopefully that Evolution Labs waxy maize is ok, too..

Weight this morning after breakfast and b.m. = 206lbs

dougz 09-06-2008 12:53 PM

11am:

Pre-workout shake

(1.5 cups of 1% yogurt, 2 cups frz. bluberries, 1 tbsp grd. walnuts)

12 noon:

Delt workout:

dumbbell lateral raises (both arms): 20x10, 20x10, 30x5, 30x5, 30x5

Standing overhead press: 80x10, 80x10,100x5, 100x5, 100x5

Form was sloppy on last rep on all 3 last sets.. May have to go down to 90? How good does your form have to be? :)

Machine Rear Delt.Laterals: 100x10, 100x10, 135x5, 135x5, 135x5

Have to remember to pause at end of motion!!

Squats (yes, I said squats) Well, machine squats.. The ones where the bar is on a machine that goes straight up and down..

Is it ok to do these for the first little bit, or am I being too much of a pussy?

I feel I can concentrate more on getting my bum out and going low if I don't have to worry about falling over backwards.. Thoughts?

Very hard on my upper back, and my rotator cuffs!! :(

I just did 3 sets of 100lbs

1pm:

PWO shake: 2 cups of Tropicana OJ, 35g of whey.

2pm:

Real meal:

2 whole eggs, 3 whites, 1 tomato, 1 orange, 3 tbsp of salsa, some cheddar + 2000mg of Omega 3 fish body oil

Pitysister 09-06-2008 01:01 PM

form needs to be right on, or your not doing yourself any good.

don't do machine squats. man up and put barbell on your back :)

dougz 09-06-2008 01:07 PM

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form needs to be right on, or your not doing yourself any good.
Do you try to lift it straight up, or slightly forward (80 degrees)?

By lack of form I mean cheating, rocking it up a bit.. I'll take it down to 90 next time..

Mind you, I'll be trying out my "Starting Strength" routine by then, and I don't think this excersize is on there (not any of these, in fact)..

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don't do machine squats. man up and put barbell on your back
D'oh.... :(

dougz 09-08-2008 07:21 PM

Weight after breakfast and b.m. 208lbs

Good workout today..

6:30pm:

Drank a Pre WO shake of a banana, 1 tbsp of PB, and a cup of milk.

(noxious flatulence!! No more bananas for me!!)

2000mg of fish oil Omega 3 tablets.

7:30pm:

30 min. on the treadmill or 2.7miles
(5 min warm-up, 5 min cool down, 20 min @6mph x 1.5 incline).

I did chest excersizes first, instead of lats first.

made a big difference with my chest workout..

Bench: 2x10 push-ups for a warm up, then 90x3

Sigh.. It's a start.. :(

Machine seated fly: 135x5

Pull ups: x10 x5 x5

Barbell Row: 100x5

Form was sloppy.. Will try 90 next time

Cable straight arm pull-down 60 x5

Great pump in lats..

8: 30pm: PWO shake, 2 cups of OJ, 1 multivitamin, 35g of whey.

9:30pm: 2 whole eggs, 3 whites, 3 tbsp salsa, 35g of cheddar, 1 tomato, 1 orange.

Cals for the day: 2680 37% protein , 43% carbs, 20% fat

250g of protein (too much?)..

Man, I love this Fit Day app!

Ross86 09-08-2008 07:34 PM

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250g of protein (too much?)..
No such thing! :D Ok, maybe for people that have renal failure or in other weird cases. Don't worry about it. If you start getting over 400g of protein per day, then worry. 250g/day is a good number. No reason to get any less than that.


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