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Old 11-03-2008, 12:30 PM
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BTW, Kane, I don't know if your are dong this with singles...

I know you have a certain number in mind for any given workout, for the most part, but you mentioned failed attempts. Keep in mind that with some exercises a failed attempt can take more out of you than the successful ones.

This has NOTHING to do with the question of resting plenty and trying again or whatever. What I'm saying is if you fail at attempt that is over 90% you may want to "count" that as a single. I wouldn't worry about it too much when it just one failure toward the beginning, since, a lot of times that's just a question of acclimitization, but certainly you wouldn't want to have two or three failures and keep trying for ten successes. In that case the failures need to be counted as something.

For me it depends on the exercise what I count a fairlure as. For instance for a front box or anderson squat..I'll count one failure as a rep. Whereas with a regular box squat I'll absorb a failure but two will count as a rep...not that two failures happen too often of course.

When you're looking at recovery, besides the "neural question" it is mostly an aerobic process. So you may notice that a failed attempt where you give it your all has you huffing and puffing while the successes barely get your heart speeded up. More oxygen debt means more recovery debt.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:12 PM
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Thanks IW. Your definition of power curls is right

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BTW, Kane, I don't know if your are dong this with singles...

I know you have a certain number in mind for any given workout, for the most part, but you mentioned failed attempts. Keep in mind that with some exercises a failed attempt can take more out of you than the successful ones.

This has NOTHING to do with the question of resting plenty and trying again or whatever. What I'm saying is if you fail at attempt that is over 90% you may want to "count" that as a single. I wouldn't worry about it too much when it just one failure toward the beginning, since, a lot of times that's just a question of acclimitization, but certainly you wouldn't want to have two or three failures and keep trying for ten successes. In that case the failures need to be counted as something.

For me it depends on the exercise what I count a fairlure as. For instance for a front box or anderson squat..I'll count one failure as a rep. Whereas with a regular box squat I'll absorb a failure but two will count as a rep...not that two failures happen too often of course.

When you're looking at recovery, besides the "neural question" it is mostly an aerobic process. So you may notice that a failed attempt where you give it your all has you huffing and puffing while the successes barely get your heart speeded up. More oxygen debt means more recovery debt.
Most definitely.

It defintely depends on the situation and exercise. For a missed rep at the start I may just take a break and re-attempt (not counting the miss), but if its a failed attempt towards the latter part of the singles then I'll count it. Sometimes I may even count it as 2 reps rather than 1 (http://www.bodybuilding.net/training...ding#post20870). I've tried my best to keep failed reps out of the equation

Oxygen debt and recovery debt is a good point. For some reason I didn't mention it.
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