I was going to chime in, but ross has you covered ... I always run nolva inverse to serm, usually
although, I usually cut the ATD off at 25 for the most part. It drys my joints to bad that I just cant take it.
I don't do this for my family, my friends, women, accolades, pride, or ego. I do it for me and no one else, its just part of who I am.