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neck 15.5
chest45
right arm flexed 16.5 flat 13 3/4
left arm flexed 16 3/4 flat 14
stomach 37
waist 33 pant size
left thigh24
right thigh24
left calf16
right calf17



bench 245x 10
incline dumbels 100s x 7
curl 115x10
closegrip bench 205 x10
military dumbell 85x10
bent row 205x10


5'11 200lbs decent diet well see how good this stuff works...

Good luck. What's your PCT going to be like? What are your goals for strength/mass?

im just gonna train hard and see what i come up with my oy gave me a bottle of clomid and a bottle of nolvadex so im just gonna figure out how i should do em any input?? i got that ai cycle support for while im on and im thinkin bout 6oxo for pct too but think it might be over kill???

I haven't read up much on clomid...that's on my to-do list. I've seen lots of PCTs that ramped down the nolva while inversely ramping up 6oxo. I have read several discussions about it & the logic is very sound. When you consider the risk of gyno, it's worth the extra $30 or so IMO. As soon as I get the chance (hopefully tomorrow), I'll post a bunch of stuff or PM you.

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sweet let me know bro thanks

http://www.postcycletherapy.com/
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94545
http://www.bodybuilding.net/anabolic...-pct-9617.html

This is a pretty good start. I think the third link has info found mostly in the second link, but I threw it in anyway. I remember reading some journals where people posted their workouts, PCT, etc on some of the other boards. I'll post the links when/if I find them.

nice work but no clue still about how to dose these and that 6oxo sounds a lil risky to me?? thanks ross

If you look at the section titled "Discussion on running SERM inverse to ATD" at http://www.postcycletherapy.com/, it lists a sample PCT that looks pretty good to me. It has dosing on there. DHEA is pretty cheap...you can pick it up at Walmart for about $6/bottle. It will help with libido during PCT. ReboundXT (RXT) is or has ATD in it. You can buy ATD for very cheap at nutraplanet.com. Lean Xtreme (LX) & Retain2 are good for cortisol control. If I were you, I would do that sample PCT. Just read the entire page...it explains everything very plainly.

I was going to chime in, but ross has you covered ... I always run nolva inverse to serm, usually

nolva 40/30/20/10
ATD 0/25/25/50

although, I usually cut the ATD off at 25 for the most part. It drys my joints to bad that I just cant take it.

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now is that days or weeks and what if i want to use nolva and clomid what should the doses be??