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Now add 2% of that weight. You get 505, which is what he failed at. The only thing that matters is the intensity. If you're lifting 96% and 2lbs puts you at 101%, you fail. If you're at 90% and adding 50lbs puts you at 99% you will complete the movement. If you go back to Talo's original workout, assume 505 is his max (not something less), he performed 1 single at 90%, failed at 100% (could even be 105%, who knows) and then went onto some rack pulls. Why not go for a single at the assumed 98%? |
To me it would depend. If I had, at a previous date, hit 495lb then I would be tempted to go for the 505lb directly since it is a PR. If I had never hit 495lb then i would go for that first to secure the newest PR... I dunno.
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Sorry, but Kane has more experience pulling singles...
All the rest of this is just "theory"..when it comes to potentiation and at these high percentages you HAVE to be willing to experiment and not go by a bunch of theories. I have missed lifts and went back "only" 10 pounds and with good rest got said missed lifts. Some of you are getting too caught up in "percentages" and numbers versus what happens. Expectations don't matter. BTW...I thought ya'll read Maximum Strength.. 455 to 505 is a BIG jump. It is quite possible to miss a lift simply due to not enough acclimation. |
Lifting above 98% won't change your potential 100% during consecutive lifts? I don't know where I got that idea. I guess I need to do some more reading.
Where do you draw the line? Doing a 790 squat to acclimate yourself to an 800 squat is retarded. 10lbs is definitely relative to the lifter. The reason I mentioned percentages is that it was the easiest way to explain myself. And percentages are indicative of what happens. I'm sure it's possible to miss a lift due to not enough acclimation. In the powerlifting meets I've been to, I've never seen a lifter go over 90% while warming up. Then again, you could qualify most first attempts as that last acclimation. |
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And yes 455 to 505 is a BIG jump. I wasn't thinking very much when doing this , just keeping up with my steady increases of 50lbs and 40lbs ( adding two 25's then taking those off and putting on two 45's ) I was doing this assuming my max 1 rep was 505lb. Kane , what your saying does make sense to me and you do have lots of knowledge when it comes to this. Next time I do my 1Rep lift I will go to the 455 then start adding 10-15lbs at a time to see how that will help. More singles and less of a weight jump when I get closer to the PR mark. Also proper rest between sets. I fall victom to this when I train alone. I hate sitting around and waiting. I either don't wait long enough or I go and do something else in between. Either way it dosen't help. When training with someone it's different , the rest is there. This particullar day I was not patient enough and that's what it comes down to. I know (staying positive here) I can hit a 505 deadlift , just need to come at it the right way. |
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you should use that warmup that YOU posted in monsta's journal :) |
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Like you said, most guys will go for the big lift during the second or even third attempt. Intentional or unintentional that first (or second) attempt is acclimating them. TALO, if you're really confident that you can get 505. Try doing the warmup you did until you got to 405 but do a single at 405, 455, and 475. Then go for 505. If you've got a bit of doubt, personally I would shoot for that 495. If you chip away 10-15lbs from 455 you'll end up with 4-5 sets over 90% and that may hinder your performance. If you're going to do that I'd start it around 475-485. And take some decent rest times! :) |
I agree with what Kane says right there ^^.
Dub |
me too.
We;ll see what happens in a few weeks when I do it again :) |
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