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Old 07-12-2007, 02:04 PM
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Let's start with the GHR's. Remember they have a "glute" part in them. Hrdgain is right what you are dong isn't effective. But that is because you're doing them wrong. GHR's when done right are more effective than any ham isolation and the other beauty of them is they can be tacked on top of other posterior chain work without ramping up fatigue to a great degree. But exactly what I figrued would be happening is happening which is why I wanted to see the vid. I'll watch the vid again in a bit.

Your hips bent the entire time. That is because your glutes are too weak to support the hip extension throughout the movement. Remember I told you your glutes were/would be weak? The hips HAVE to remain locked. Squeeze the glutes and concentrate on that. It's more important than just turning it into a glorified leg curl. I'd rather you use more assistance and bring the glutes in than doing what you are doing just in the interest of knee flexion reps.

Technically the first part of the GHR is an actual extension. Most people take that out which is OK but to be truly as effective as possible the first portion should be a hip extension initiated by strong gluteal contraction and THEN knee flexion. You won't be able to do that for a while. For now concentrate on keeping the body straight.

I'm fine with RDL's. I've found out there is not much difference between RDL's and keystones for me because of my flexibilty. I have to do them from plates to make it really much of a stretch. Just do the RDL's. The grip thing is entirely normal. I get the same thing. It's good for your grip endurance. One thing you have to realize is that holding a very heavy weight for a few reps is very different than holding a lighter weight for a lot of reps. The last time I did them (ROMS) I barely got the bar back on the rack before dropping the bar on the last rep. Just hold on tighter and show your body whose boss.

Ok...the dumbell swings. It is good that you made a vid of them. No wonder you like them the way you're doing them. You shouldn't be using anywhere near that amount of weight. The rounding of the lumbar spine is attrocious. Not only are you incorrectly loading the lower back you're doing in a ballistic fashion. It's an injury waiting to happen. It is supposed to be forcefull and direct posterior chain strength that "swings" the weight up not just making your body a big stretchy pendulum. You have to use control and you HAVE to maintain your lower back. Don't go so low and so heavy that you can't do that. It is the hip muscles that bring the weight up. The lumbar erectors are NOT hip muscles. I'd rather you drop them altogether if you are not able to curb the ego and use an appropriate amount of weight under CONTROL. I didn't want them in the routine anyway but if your are going to do them please do them correctly. I don't want you ending up with a back like mine.

I think it is a good idea to think of them as swingthroughs rather than swings to remind us of the similarity to a pullthrough. At least if you do the pullthroughs the way they are should be done and not "the one that's for the back" which is just silly shit. The swing is just a pullthrough with a free weight and so is done in a much more dynamic fashion. Of course there are all sorts of differences in terms of tension but let's not nitpick. The form pretty much the same.

Go to http://www.crossfit.com and click on exercises and demos and find the Kettleball Swings vid for a proper one. I don't think you necessarily need to take the dumbell as high as the guy in the vid but otherwise.....

Stretch your hams and lower body more often. Not just after a workout. I think you need it.

Box squats look good to me. Except for the first rep where you sat down on the box a little hard. But such things happen. What is it your concerned about? Except probably a bunch of people giving you generic "sit back" instuctions

And yes there is always a madness to my method
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

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Old 07-12-2007, 02:15 PM
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Hopefully you can come up with a better sep up for GHR's when you get back to the states. For now just concentrate on the points I laid out.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:48 AM
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eric, you should be taking on clients, seriously.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:51 AM
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^^ I like that idea, I got a few more weeks with my trainer then I will be looking for a new idea. How about it?
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:15 PM
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Hey guys I appreciate the sentiment very much . It's a great compliment. But I seriously can't justify charging people being that I have no formal training and no proper certification, and, quite frankly, there is too much I don't know. I put a LOT of thought into the people I help but the truth is there are some VERY qualified strength proffessionals that can do so much more than I could to help, at least on a paying basis. I am not one of those self appointed internet trainers and I would never be because it takes to much away from the people who spent years of study and dedication of their lives to this. I would NEVER take money out of their pockets...plain and simple.

Brew, just read all the info on the site you can and things like that and try to come up with a direction you want to go in and I and everbody else I'm sure will help. Trust me, if I think something sucks I'll tell you....you already found out about that The simple answer to me, though, based on what it says in your journal is that you should be concetrating right now on strength development while you are dropping the excess fat through diet and cardio (HIIT...I'm with Hrdgain all the way on that).
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:32 AM
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Eric, thanks for the critique. i will keep this in mind and read it once again before i go for my lower 2 workout next week. and damn, i knew i was weak on the GHRs. but ill do what u said. as for dumbbell swings: im still a little unsure what u mean but im gonna re-read what u wrote once more. actually twice more.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:40 AM
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Summer '07 Upper-Lower Split
UPPER 2 - WEEK 9


Workout:-

Military Press = 3 sets x 5 reps x 120 lbs (55 kgs)

Pull-ups = 9 + 6 + 5 + 4 = 24

Close Grip Bench Press = 3 sets x 6 reps x 155 lbs (70 kgs)

Overhead Shrugs = 3 sets x 12 reps x 75 lbs (35 kgs)

Russian Twists = 2 sets x 10 reps x 10 lbs (5 kgs)

Decline Sit-ups = 2 sets x 15 reps x BW

TOTAL POUNDAGE:-

W9 --->>> 11,730 lbs
W8 --->>> 11,050 lbs
W7 --->>> 10,655 lbs
W6 --->>> 11,220 lbs
W5 ---->>> 12,210 lbs
W4 --->>> 13,270 lbs
W3 --->>> n/a
W2 --->>> n/a
W1 --->>> 8,847 lbs


Overall Impression:-

i wasnt well today. i almost puked before my workout. i dunno why i actually went but i didnt want to take an off today. anyways, lots to talk about...(got 3 vids today: military press and 2 sets of CGBP)

Military Press: so Eric and Chris both brought it to my notice last week that my military press was really not official because i didnt make the bar touch my clavicle. SO, this time i decided to stick to 120 and make the bar touch my clavicle on every rep. a vid has been provided. im happy because now i know next week ill knock out 120x5x5 and then the week after its 3x5x135

Pull-ups: new PR.....im happy...

Close Grip Bench Press: got a vid for this too. felt awesome.

Overhead Shrugs: my shoulders are very happy

Russian Twists: a breeze...i need to figure out what eric meant by doing these standing with a barbell....ill do some research on this before my next workout...

Decline Sit-ups: boring

Diet: tons of food. all good.

Overall: good workout. im very happy that i was able to do so much even after me being so sick (i also had a fever in the morning)....i also felt very dehydrated today for some reason...well, i made up for that by drinking 3 litres total before sleeping lol....today mornings im feeling fine though - no cough, no cold, no fever. whoo-hoo....

as always, have a GREAT weekend everyone!!!

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Old 07-14-2007, 12:45 AM
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ok here is the vid:

Upper 2 Week 9

some notes:

Military Press 120x5
on rep 3 i lost balance because someone behind me tripped and fell and i lost concentration. luckily, i recovered and i was able to knock out 2 more reps. i didnt take another vid because i was bored. but i wish i had. noentheless, the bar did touch my clavicle (i think :o ).

Close Grip Bench Press Set #1
my head got cut off lol.....

Close Grip Bench Press Set #2
ok now when i got up i got cut off lol...
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:57 AM
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Just watch the swing vid at crossfit, anuj. I edited that part, btw, to include the obvious similarity between the swings and the pullthrough.

Looks like pullups are moving. I like the way people make this big thing about separating pullups and chins like they are so VERY different and should be treated as two exercises. The only real difference is functionality. Pullups transfer more to real world endeavors. Otherwise if it's purely from a strength perspective it's whatever allows you to do the most, imo.

You know, if you want you can even throw in a quick set of pullups at the end of a lower day. Not enough to hinder recovery or anything just a little more "practice".
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:16 AM
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alright Eric thanks
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