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Most of the studies done regarding ECDY have been with Rhaponticum carthamoides and it seems that those who use ECDY derived from Cyantois Vaga are less likely to respond. Anagen and 95% of all the ECDY based products use Cyantois Vaga

Chuck Rudolph in his interview believes that plant origin is not a factor, however some interesting points were raised by Trouble @ M&M.

http://www.superhumanradio.com/core/shr_archive.htm


Right now I am taking 167mg 5x a day. Anagen is going to be priced at $24 which should last a 180-190lb male a month.


http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/SS2
Syntrax Syntra EC is going for $25 dollars right now, you can mix it with legal gear’s gel and even apply it transdermaly. But as of now I am getting excellent results and see no reason to complicate it.

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Thanks Hrdgain81 and 0311, I was feeling much better today I didn’t push myself as hard as usual. I should be back to normal by Monday/Tuesday, I have been training very intense in the past couple of weeks and my body could use the extra break.

Fortunately sometime next week I will move out of residence and finally have a kitchen so I can get away from my monochromatic diet.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the support!

Day 24

Tuesday: Lower 1
Incline Curls: 2 x 6-8
Hammers: 1 x 12-18

A2G Squats: 7 x 5, 225 (Felt to easy, I increased volume slightly to avoid having to wait for the leg press machine to free up)
Leg Press: 2 x 10 10 Plates (12reps came out easy)
Calves: DC Style



Overall thoughts:
Despite my illness, I still was able to maintain my weight (183-185lbs). Which is interesting since when I fell ill* a few months ago I lost about 5-6lbs in the same amount of time. Perhaps Anagen preserved some muscle mass.

I don’t usually get sick but I have been over stressing myself lately with school and so fourth; next week will be better.

Day 27
Thursday: Upper 2

Incline Press: 3x5 160lbs
Standing Military Press: 3 x 5-8 110bs
Pulldowns (2x15,12 wide),(2x12 medium) 140lbs
Reverse Pulldown 1-12 140lbs
Rev. P-downs: 2 x 10-12 110lbs (10lbs increase)


Training
Weights stayed the same, however felt much easier. I could have easily added 10lbs to each exercise, however I wanted to make sure I was fully recovered.


Diet:
Spot on.

Supplement Anagen
In the first two weeks of supplementing with Anagen, my strength increased dramatically (10lbs/week). Soon after, I noticed much greater muscle density. My lagging parts in particular, have really begun to develop. It really is unbelievable what this supplement helped me to achieve. Prior to usage, my weight and strength remained constant, now it is increasing at a steady rate and has not started to diminish. Right now, I am noticing even greater muscle fullness.

While out of the gym for a week, I was able to resume with a ZERO decrease in strength and weight.

Day 28 – Tuesday
Lower 2
Barbell Curls: 2 x 6-10
Standing Reverse Curls: 1 x 12

A2G Squats: 1 x 4-8, 1 x 20 (widow-maker) 260lbs
Rack Dead lifts: 3 x 5 225lbs
Ham. Curls: 2 x 10 200
Leg Exten: 2 x 10 200
Calves: 1 x 15-20 275
Abs Work: 5 x 10


Training
Great workout today, I pushed my self very hard on A2G squats as a result couldn’t perform as well on dead lifts.

On a side note, I will be moving out of residence tomorrow and my diet will really start to develop even further! I am excited to get away from my relatively monochromatic diet, and through in some variety!

I'm confused Slayer. What brand are you using? Rhaponticum Carthomoides (Russian Maral Root/Leuzea/Russian Leuzea/Leuzea Carthomoides) is hugely expensive as far as I know. The amount of raw material needed to extract meaningful amounts of Ecdy on a large scale would be staggering in terms of cost, unless something has changed.

Perhaps Cyantois Vaga is cheaper, hence the general usage.

P.S. Oh, I see, you meant you were using Anagen. When you say 167 mgs a day that means 167 mgs of actual Ecdy? I see it has Rhodiola Rosea and something else.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Doesnt say what the break down is, and i just spent way too long to try and find it.

Cyanotis Vaga (Supplying 60% [100mg] 167mg
Rhodiola Rosea (3% rosavins and 1% salidrosides) 100mg
Baccopa Monniera (20:1) 50mg

Anagen uses Cyantois Vaga. You are correct, Rhaponticum Carthomoides are very expensive. There is some debate regarding plant origin and its effectiveness, however I am responding very well to this extract and am satisfied with my overall progress.

One table contains 167mgs, I consume 5 spread throughout the day (ECDY has a very short half life)

Thanks, Slayer.

No problem