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brew 07-09-2007 07:23 AM

Starting from Round up!
Like the play on words in the title!

So lets start this off right

age: 24
Height: 5'7
Weight: 220
BF: Don't know I am gonna get one of those scales and update

I am looking to loose some major weight then I will try and put on some hard muscle. This will be right from the start so if I post a pic please keep women and children away it may be a little scary.

OK here is the plan just to let everyone know I did get a trainer. I will follow his plan to start and I will post what sets reps and weights I am doing. All I know is I will be doing cardio everyday for 30 Min's at least I will try and ramp this up but I have to start somewhere.:weights: I will be doing Bi's, back, and abs on Tuesdays, legs and abs Thursdays, chest and back on Saturdays. I don't know what lifts or what reps, but I will update to let all you more experienced rip it apart.

I live in a small town and to be honest I only got the trainer to spot me and give support while I work out. He seems to know what he is talking about but you all really know what your talking about. I am open to any ideas.

As, for supplements I ordered BCAA, CEE, and PV last night I have hydroxycut hardcore and New Whey protein. I like this kind of protein just because of how fast and easy it is. I have never tried this before so I am curious to see how it works it is a liquid and tastes great.

Oh and I did my cardio this morning 30 mins pretty quick pace sweating hard and keeping my heart rate at about 175 a little up and a little down. I did go in for a Physical got my blood drawn, EKG, and a Chest X-ray. I go back next week for the results. I am trying to do this right.

I would like to know how long to expect before noticeable changes start to happen I want to go into this with high goals but ones that I can reach.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!

Darkhorse 07-09-2007 09:10 AM

Good luck!

EricT 07-09-2007 09:18 AM


brew 07-09-2007 09:21 AM

Thanks, I have already got alot of help from you that you don't even know about. I read all your Supplement tests that is why I ordered the PV, BCAA, and the CEE. I never did see what multi-vitamin was recommended any thoughts on what I should get and what I will be missing. Right off the bat I know its going to be hard getting 5-6 meals per day and keeping the calories low enough for good weight loss. Also, do I try and take 1-2 grams of protein per pound of lean mass or total weight. Remember I am trying to Cut first.

brew 07-09-2007 11:58 AM

Also, I have started a food journal on I will post the results of my diet tonight to be open for scrutiny.

brew 07-09-2007 03:42 PM

OK here is how it worked out for meals

8:AM Protein Drink
8:AM Cardio
10:AM Chunk light tuna lunch kit
1:PM 3oz snow peas raw 6.6oz chicken breast
3:PM Chunk light tuna again (I kinda like these things)
5:PM 6oz chicken breast 1/2 cup salad dry
Done for the day I guess
Totals 1282 Cals 40g fat 40g carb 185g protein I got these totals from fitday and put the nutrition facts for the tuna in as a custom food.

Let me know of any suggested changes

TALO 07-09-2007 08:02 PM

You have the right idea, but I personally think you should add in some more food. Your 220, I think you should start your calories around the 2000 mark. you will lose fat this way, while keeping some muscle...Muscle needs the nutrients and one way or another it will get them...either from your body (catabolizim..sp?) or from what you put in it.. If you eat again at 7pm and then have a shake or something to get you through the night.

Protein is the most important, but if you add in some rice with some of those meals you will get more calories and it will help you with your goal...Not all carbs are Bad!!!

I'm sure others will have opions on this aswell...Good luck man, nice to see your bumped and ready!!

brew 07-10-2007 02:48 PM

Thanks Talo I took your advice so far today and added in some oatmeal for breakfast and another protein shake.

Today was with the trainer, we worked on my arms and back. I really wasn't interested in the weights I just wanted to keep good form since it has been awhile.

He plan consists of high reps 30,25,20. I never worked out like this before usually I stuck to 3x8 or 5x5. Also, I did cardio in between back and arms, and after arms. This is also new. He suggested that I get fish oil and take it three times a day. What is this for? Do I need it? I will try it but I am curious.

All in all it was a good day so far I have kept to the diet and really like it. I am never hungry and eating way less calories then I used to. As always I am open to suggestions or opinions I want to use this website as a crutch to help keep motivated. Most friends of mine do not lift and don't know anything about it so asking them questions is like talking to a brick. NO Answer at all just a dumb look and shoulder shrug.

brew 07-11-2007 03:38 PM

Well today is about the same as yesterday except that I got the supplements in and will take them in the morning. Suggestions with when and how much would be great I have PV, CEE, and BCAA's. I am curious if I count the PV against my calories taken for the day since I am trying to get rid of fat? I do find myself wanting to go to the gym again today I feel fine not sore or nothing. I guess maybe we need to jump up the weights.

On the soreness subject I read that it comes from Lactic Acid in the muscle and I also read that it is from the muscle being torn down and rebuilding. Is this the same thing and the acid is a byproduct or what?

TALO 07-11-2007 03:55 PM

BCAA'S I personally take before and after (if pills) I take during a workout if I'm useing a drink, and sometimes through out the day. The thing about them is you can't have too much.

CEE I take 3g before and 3g after my workout along with taurine.

PV - not sure what this is.

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