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08-24-2007, 01:01 PM
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Hey Now! No making fun of the small guy!  Dam powerlifters! lol
Some good tips there. I do think about pushing on the floor, so maybe changing that will help. And I only thought my knees were too far forward in the vid because I thought in Rip's book he made a HUGE deal out of that. Even to the extent that he talked about using blocks at one point to prevent it. But like you said, I don't think there's any other way I could squat that low. So I'm just gonna concentrate on my hips, get rid of the belt and try out the microloading. Man, getting big is hard!
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08-24-2007, 02:54 PM
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LOL, I'm not a PL'r. and I would never make fun. I train for strength but I don't just care about squat, deads, and bench. I'm more into all around kinda thing. Ok, I DO care about deads a lot though...
I just meant 155 pounds on the bar, when you consider how quickly the average (small or large) guy can load the bar seems an inherently obvious weight at which NOT to be using a belt because relative to your potential it's light. We all have to start somewhere and you'll probably end up squatting a whole lot more than I ever will! And I probably started out squatting less than you did when your started. Deads though I wll give you a run
The knees thing doesn't sound like Rip....where in the book? And is it starting strength or PP? I take it starting strength...
I wouldn't want to speak for Rip but I'm sure he would recognize that how far forward your knees go would be determined by stance width and foot angle and I would think also by position of the bar on the back...
I do have an analysis of his somewhere so I'll read that.
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I do think about pushing on the floor, so maybe changing that will help.
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There is no maybe about it in my mind. It's a less subtle discinction than it seems. Try it out with a light weight that you can do well and it you get it right it will fly up as compared to pushing on the floor.
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08-24-2007, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric3237
Go to Phil's journal for ideas on microloading weights.
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Here's the links to two different ideas. I used them both, but I like the second one because the washer's are actually just light plates, and they make it easy to add 2.5 pounds.
Microloading 1
Microloading 2
Microloading really helped me as I reached my stalling weights. I was able to progress longer before resetting.
Keep up the good work.
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08-24-2007, 06:42 PM
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Phil, I meant to give you due praise for finding those washers but it must have slipped my mind. Top notch stuff! Great info.
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08-24-2007, 06:56 PM
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Thanks for the links man. Both ideas are great. I already happen to have a weight vest that uses little .5lb bars, so that would be the quickest solution right now. Plus I can fine tune the weight that way. But what I'll most likely end up doing is just grabbing a few pieces of scrap wood out of the garage, drill a 2 1/8" hole in them, and then shave them down till I get 1lb, 1.25lbs and 1.5lbs. Shouldn't take long and it's free!  I did the same thing for my bumper plates after I saw the price of those online. Lowe's sells an 18" round wooden table top which is the exact size of a 45lb plate. Bought 2, drilled a hole in the middle and got me some bumper plates for $20.
Eric, you are correct. I just skimmed through my copy of Starting Strength and I completely confused the knee thing. And don't worry, I never take the razzing seriously. What fun would it be if we didn't bust chops?  I just hope I can break through this sticking point because I felt like I was making a lot of progress pretty quickly until recently. But I think between switching to microloading, increasing my calories, switching to actual shoes instead of flip flops, lol, and focusing on the bar instead of the ground I'll be fine. Unfortunately I have to wait until Sunday to test this out.
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08-26-2007, 01:16 PM
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Workout A
Squat
3x5 - 160lbs
Bench
3x5 - 135lbs
Dead
1x5 - 195lbs
Dips +10lbs - 10/9
So I decided to skip the microloading right now for 2 reasons. First, I only have 2 more days this week before vacation. And second, I was holding off on more weight because I thought my form was really bad. But after the vid, I realize it's not that bad, so I decided to stop being a girl (no offense IK  ) and just add some dam weight. I have to admit, 160, especially without a belt, was tough, but I'd say 12 out of the 15 reps were done properly. So I should be able to get all 15 in good form by Thursday. Only thing I can't seem to do yet is focus on the bar. As soon as I start to push up, I immediately focus on my feet, so I have to work on that. Could have added 5lbs to the bench today too, so that bummed me out. 10lbs more on the dead, and man did I feel that. Plus I added 3 more dips. So really everything went up today which makes me feel great. I guess that really is progress and if I can keep going like this, I should be able to reach my next goal in a few months. OK, enough rambling, must eat!
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08-29-2007, 06:49 PM
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Workout B
Squat
3x5 - 160lbs
Overhead Press
3x5 - 85lbs
Pull Ups - 7/2
Changed my foot position a little today and noticed a few things on the squat. I brought them in a little more, then turned my toes out a bit. This seems to have taken away the problem of my forward weight shift. I feel a lot more stable and centered which is nice. I also noticed a ton of soreness in my calves already, something I've never noticed before. It also appears to be hitting my inner thigh more. Now all I need to do is remember this in 2 weeks when I get back from vacation.
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09-05-2007, 02:16 PM
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That's good.
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09-25-2007, 02:56 PM
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Finally got a workout in yesterday. Seems like it's been months, and I'm feeling more sore than ever today. But 2 weeks vacation and then a week running around catching up on things really screwed me up. Think I'm going to do workout B on Thursday so I can recoup and break back into it. Then start up heavy again on Sunday. Time to get moving as I want to reach 200lbs by Halloween. That's 13lbs I need to put on over the next 6 weeks.
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09-30-2007, 07:10 PM
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Back on track and determined to hit 200 by the end of next month. Officially back on the same routine, and today I hit the same numbers I left off with. I know I can increase both the bench and the dead on Thursday though, so that's a good feeling. Just hope I can get by this sticking point on my squat in the next week or so. Also need to recalculate my diet tomorrow to make sure I'm eating for 200lbs.
Workout A
Squat
3x5 - 160lbs
Bench
3x5 - 135lbs
Dead
1x5 - 195lbs
Dips +10lbs - 6/4 stopped both sets due to elbow pain
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