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Anyone have any opinions on what phase Cancer should be in before taking creatine, or perhaps which magnetic pole to face?

Not for nothing, but it isn't so powerful that any of this would matter. I mean, if you were talking about gaining ten lbs of muscle mass if you take it after dinner or one lb before breakfast, THEN you would have reason to sweat it...

Man, don't even know how to say this without sounding bitter or whatever, so take it with a grain of salt... For a 16 year old with seemingly little or no training experience, taking creatine is just pissing money away when there are so many gains to be made through honest work. If you are 16 and can't find the energy to make it through an honest hour's worth of work, you don't need creatine, you need to get in shape.

...um, feel free to replace that age with any that you can think of, and the same rule holds true.

ok can a 16 yr old handle some of the side effects like dehydration,dyerria,just name a few kidney damage from not drinking enough water[ falls under dehydration ] he should be concentrating on a work-out plan and the right foods worry about the supplements later down the road

weird, i've not had any of those side effects.

What makes a 16 year old different form a 20 year old.
I'd say perhaps a 16 year old could handle more things because of their better health at youth. And second of all, there has been absolutely NO proof of kidney damage while taking the RIGHT amount of dosages of Creatine. Just because your 16, does not mean your stupid. I looked into this and know how much I should be taking. And I DO drink a lot of water. Creatine, to me, is just a way of increasing the amount of weight Im lifting.

The avg 16 year old isn't as developed physiologically. If you had said someone in their mid twenties, then I would agree.

I see your point and it's fun to take supplements. I don't really take many supplements that have to do with lifting other than protein & WMS, and occasionally creatine....I stopped taking everything for a while when I was working on getting my nutrition down, because that's what dictates gains for the most part. You would have better results doing the same. Keep a positive attitude; all of this is constructive criticism.

Because creatine is so cheap, I am going to go officially on the record as saying that I disagree with AC.

Dave, what you're talking about is very, very insignificant. Diarrhea only occurs when people OD on creatine. The dehydration is an important issue, but drinking too much soda or eating too much salty food can dehydrate you also. In fact, a high protein diet is dehydrating. Consuming a little extra water is not too difficult. Besides, this affects very, very, very few people and it's been mild in almost all cases.

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ross u r right

Good points dave, but I think just by coming here and asking for all the info he has about creatine Timmy has displayed at very least a modicum of maturity, and I think thats more then enough to be able to deal with creatine.

The POSSIBLE side effects are now known to him, and he now also knows how to take creatine in the safest most effective manner.

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Oh, I don't think it would hurt him, other than possibly getting him in the mindset that strength and performance gains come in a bottle... which they do not... well, not a LEGAL bottle at least

But you know, why not start worrying about the most insignificant details now before you have put in any real work? It's like worrying which direction the napkins will face at your party before you have ordered the cake, sent out invitations or even picked the date. There are simply bigger fish to fry, but some people like worrying over stuff that won't make a difference.

I have seen evidence that creatine has some minimal value in certain cases, but I wouldn't say the value is high enough that it is worth hard earned cash. Not to mention it has been given these mythical qualities... improves recovery, more energy, more strength, makes your muscles grow, etc... all of which would make Mother Goose giggle. Sure, I think you can also say that hanging upside down makes you taller... but will it have any kind of meaningful lasting effect and can it turn a 5'10" guy into a 6'3" basketball star? I think that is what you are up against with any supplement (with the noted exception that I think caffeine has a noted and beneficial effect if used sparingly (to avoid tolerance or dependence).

And a final word on price: When I look at the cost of something, I look at what it will do for me compared to the cost (which is always a bad thing). Now, as a young college buck I had lots of disposable income, and I disposed of it... which at this point I generally consider a bad move. It will likely take most of you younger/not married guys a while to figure that out. But consider that for the price of a couple jugs of creatine you could buy resistance bands... something I would say is money well spent. Or for the price of some whey protein you probably don't need anyway, you could buy some fractional plates. So on and so forth until you have a gym bag full of truly useful, lifetime lasting tricks which may ACTUALLY provoke some intense workouts (and perhaps a touch of fun, which I think most people lack).