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Thanks for the help guys. Sounds like I have been doing it all wrong for a long time. I always thought that if I did nothing but exercizes that isolated the biceps that they would grow better and faster. But as I have come to realize, and time has proven, all the isolating has done little to help put size on my biceps. I wil definitly try doing some more compound exercizes. Now should I still continue to stay with my current bicep exercizes while adding more compound exercizes to my routine???

NO. Keep the islolations to a minumum. Two or three sets not more than twice a week. Concentrate on going as heavy as possible on the compounds. Just think about what 0311 said about barbell rows vs. bicep curls and that triceps are the biggest part of your arms.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

mac, we've all been there man. Its frustrating as hell, now you know what to do

Hey thanks guys. I'm gonna change up my workouts for sure. I'll keep ya posted on the results.

well with me, my biceps respond really well to training. if your looking for that peak in ur biceps try dumbell preacher curls,incline curls,and barbell curls. that should get your biceps growing in no time

^^^ They certainly will at first for the first few years of training, but there will come a time where heavy indirect work and minimal "isolations" will become paramount.

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I couldn't agree more....

As far as I know the "Peak" is determined by genitics.

That's exactly what I need more of (peak). I do agree that genetics deffinitely has something to do with it. I have friends that have been training with me the same amount of time and doing the same exercizes that have better bicep peak then I do. But then again I have naturally big shoulders.

Peak and the genetics that comes with it only matters on stage. Otherwise just concentrate on living up to your potential and not changing the shape of your muscles. A big bicep is a big bicep. The average person asks you to flex a bicep I guarantee they are not going to turn around and say, "they're big alright, but you need more peak".