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Old 06-14-2005, 06:24 PM
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I thought the upper pec was one muscle (one per side, that is). You cannot target a specific portion of a muscle to train. Therefore, "inclines help the upper chest" is a fallacy. The entire muscle moves as one...you cannot help specify which motor units move the muscle.

Or maybe I'm all turned around on the subject.
Yes, the chest is one muscle, but you can shift the emphasis to a certain area. If I did nothing but inclines every day, my upper chest would be more pronounced than if I did declines all day. Makes sense? Arnold S. always said that when he shifted the focus on his upper pectorals, he was able after a while to balance a glass of water on his upper chest.
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I don't see how that is possible physiologically...can you train your upper quad as opposed to the lower quad?
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Plus, if what you said is true, then why not just do 5-6 sets of bench presses and leave. Why bother doing inclines, declines, ect. If you're doing incline press, does your lower pecs push up the weight? Or does your upper pectoralis portion do most of the heavy lifting? ;) Here's a diagram that could clear some of this: http://muscleblitz.com/173e4d60.jpg

Actually as of now, I'm doing DC training as you all know. I stopped doing flat bench altogether and my chest is growing considerably larger than when I used to do heavy bench press first (Max-OT).

Or we could both submit a picture of our chest to see who knows what's best jk....

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The pec minor actually lies beneath the pec major so you don’t actually see it. The pec minor attaches to the ribs and the coracoid process. The pec minor simply pulls the shoulder girdle forward. There is some benefit to doing incline bench because it seems to help build the clavicular portion of the pecs and the front delts. Nothing isolates the “inner” portion of chest. The myth arose out of the “sensation” that one feels as the pec becomes cramped while contracting it (with the arms brought close together in front of the body and flexed hard). Isolating the inner pec is like isolating one portion of a rubber band as you stretch it from either end. Now, there are differences in the way the muscle experiences stress due to the convergence of the fibers near the insertions at the musculo-tendonus junction...but that’s more detail than is necessary. One thing everyone should keep in mind.
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good info 0311... flat bench is way over rated IMO. thre are far better excercises to build a good chest.
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good info 0311... flat bench is way over rated IMO. thre are far better excercises to build a good chest.
Such as? (and please don't mention inclines...I don't like 'em)

I prefer DB flat presses to barbell. Do you think that's okay? What otheres do you recommend?
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(and please don't mention inclines...I don't like 'em)
The excercises that u hate are the best ones. What can we do??
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Such as? (and please don't mention inclines...I don't like 'em)

I prefer DB flat presses to barbell. Do you think that's okay? What otheres do you recommend?
You admitted that you were tiny and that's partly due to you not wanting to do the best exercises because you just don't like them. The chest gets worked the best with both some type of incline and weighted dips. I already flew past 50" for my chest, mostly because I dropped flat bench altogether. I stick with different degrees of inclines, and weighted dips. People need to understand that if they're serious about getting big, they need to keep an open mind, and that they don't know everything there is to know. You claiming it's a falsity that I said inclines are the best definately shows that you don't know as much as you think you do. We can't all be wrong about it...Can we? :cool:
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