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I've never had a problem with grip going over under. In fact, I do rack deadlifting over under w/ a ton more than conventioal deads for that matter. Why do you think anyone would "fail" sticking solely with the OU.. And more than that, why wouldn't you use the most grip power for the heaviest deadlifts without it holding you back, then doing grip work until your hearts content afterwards? I think holding a double overhand during warmups is unnecessary. For a stronger grip, you're ALREADY doing yourself a great service by ditching the straps period.. That means swinging from the pullup bar with an extra 50 pounds on you, heavy rows without straps, ect. I wouldn't want my grip to fail during deadlifting period.

When I went back and reread what he wrote, it seems his "rescue" grip was failing him when it started getting heavy after the 2O

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actually, Dan, if you read through my journal you'll see that I used to have major grip problems....until i changed to using an over-over as far as i can and then shifting to an over-uner when needed.

using an over-over is more difficult than using an under. a lot of top notch strongmen (they post on FI's board and on bb.com in the PL'ing section) and powerlifters like Andy Bolton use an over-over for almost everything other than Max Attempts.

I think the formula which ive read is that if you use an over-under, then your over-over max is 70% of your over-under. however, if you train for an over-over grip then your max will be 40-50% more. thats probably why Andy Bolton and Ortmayer (who posts in the bb.com PL'ing section a LOT) use an over-over when they're working with less than 80% of their 1RM.

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