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When most people start working out, they don't really know what exatly they are doing. Are they doing Strength Training or Bodybuilding?

I have come to understand that both these methods differ from each other in many ways.

Most ppl make the mistake of thinking that doing 2 reps with heavy weights for flyes or curling 300lbs is called "Strength Training". Well, they're horribly wrong.

Strength Training revolves around the following exercises:

Chest
Incline / Flat / Decline Barbell / Dumbbell Bench Press
Parallel Bar Dips

Shoulders
Military Press
Clean and Press
Upright Rows

Back
Hyperextensions
Good Mornings
Barbell / Dumbbell Rows
Lat Pull Down
Chin-Ups

Legs
Squats
Deadlifts
Stiff Leg Deadlifts
Lying Leg Curls
Hack Squats

Now, if one tries to lift heavy weights for any of the following exercises, yes: one is Strength Training.

But, lets say you start doing flyes, leg extensions, barbell curls, triceps pressdowns, etc... you are bodybuilding. now, i know i have not included any directarm work in the above exercise selection. thats because most of the above exercises are compound movements. Like Chad Waterbury, I too have come to believe that there is no need to do any direct arm work in any program... doing more compound movements increases arm size automatically.

i am not saying you can't do a mixture of the two... In fact - it does exist: its called "Power Building". Here is a useful link:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbin...=PowerBuilding

I have developed some great training routines for stength. Unfortunately, i do not have time to post them here, but, i will do so soon. till then: chao

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At 16, huh?! Are you sure it's not another Chad Waterbury routine cut and paste?

That sentence should read, "Like every other giant in the gym, I too jump on the bandwagon that you don't need direct arm work."

What is with you and Chad?!

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No direct arm work would be acceptable for a cycle where you want to maintain your existing muscle. Despite what anyone says, I don't see how its possible to get massive arms without direct arm work.

During my first run through with Bill Starr's 5x5 I had 18 1/4 roughly. During the training cycle, I did 2 sets of barbell curls a week. My indirect arm work consisted of JS Rows twice a week (5x5) and weighted pullups (5x5). Those heavy pulling exercises combined with all the compound pressing I was doing jammed my biceps up to 19's. After every workout, my arms were toast.

Bingo! While I do some direct arm work (currently doing Lyle McDonald's generic bulking routine) near the end of my upper body workouts, I believe that heavy pulling exercises work well enough for bi's, while heavy pressing works well for tri's. I've never seen anybody who can row, do pull-ups, bench, etc. (throw in any multitude of compound/multi-joint exercises) with loads of weight and still have small arms. Lyle even notes that he threw in a couple of arm exercises in the routine for the "OCD bodybuilder" who HAS to do some arm work. Like I said, being somewhat OCD I do in fact throw in one exercise for bi's, one for tri's at the end of my upper body workouts.

I've gotten the greatest hypertrophy gains while focusing on the big, multi-joint, compound movements (and at the dinner table of course). Strength goes up as well but make no mistake, I am more focused on the esthetic aspect of gaining muscle and size for the look.

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are you not agreeing with me then...?

hmmm..........? looks like someone's confused ;)

Why the hostility?? I was simply agreeing with the statement that I quoted and in no way did I assert that I was disagreeing with you...

oh crap.... i dint mean to be hostile in any way... my bad... i apologize... i know: your not piling onto me...

sorry about that....

i'm trying to juggle quite a few posts... :(

No worries, bro. As you'll find, I don't think that criticism is beneficial and thus always try to be positive with people.

man: your talking like me now

yes, i see your point: negativity = more negativiy, positivity = improvement = perfection