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I'm not talking about max-ot. I said a 4 or 5 day split. However, I'm glad you understand that there is no need for direct arm work.

So my Marine buddies in Hawaii are fucked as well?? In fact, that's the trend out there. Tropical does nothing to effect gaining weight. Hawaii is one of the most tropical places I know of.

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are they genetically weak...?

Hmm. I will try and find pictures of a few BB'ers I know that started off skinny as a stick with terrible genetics but wound up being monsters. Dante (Doggcrapp), Str8flexed (another website), and the admin from anabolicminds. All admitted to lackluster genetics in posts I've read from them. Now, I do believe that genetics play a big part in lifting in general (contrary to the aformentioned's expertise), but only to a point.

Your statement could be construed for asians as well. Most of the populace has very small frames, but I personally know a lot of them that are bigger than I am....What about Bolo Yeung. Ever see his mom and dad's pics?

0311, i dont quite see what we're arguing about: i agree with every word of what your saying...

ur missing my point:

i have horrible genetics - i ain't thin: i'm FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

like i mentioned before - my fat % used to 34.3%... i've never been thin...!!!

but, i wanna imrove on my stength..... which i am told and lead to believe will also boost my mass significantly...

now, in respect to what you said about a volume program... what would that program be which is not day specific...?

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