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Old 01-09-2007, 09:07 AM
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I have finished 1 week of this and so far I have put on close to 10lbs ( I know most if not all is water)

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You will also want to pick up a sesamin product, to help restore lipids to normal ... run that all the way through also.
What is a good sesamin product ? This is something that I forgot to look into.....shit, hope it's not a huge deal, but I will start to take it.


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depressed after a cycle, so if thats a problem for you look at getting some Sam-e, or RR.
What is this ?
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:15 AM
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Sesamin is a product by scivation, sesathin by avant labs, even bulknutrition has thier own sesamin product thats pretty cheap. I use sesaglow by Controled labs because its in a liquid gel cap form, and its 180 caps for around 25 bucks I think. Its not a huge deal at the moment, but if you leave it unchecked it could really screw you in the long run ... atleast make sure your running some in your pct if not right away.

The Sam-e was just something I thought might help if your prone to pct depression as I am. if its not an issue for you, you wont need a mood elevator like that. oh and RR is Rhodiola Rosea its an adaptagen that helps the body cope with the stress of lifting hard and heavy.

You will be suprised how much of your gains are really muscle talo. My first cycle of m1t (if memory serves me correctly) I put on 22lbs in 3 weeks, and after pct was still up 15lbs. And yes i put on fat, but it couldnt have been more then a few lbs.
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:20 AM
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RR is Rhodiola Rosea its an adaptagen that helps the body cope with the stress of lifting hard and heavy.

I've never herd of this. Is it a blck mrk drug or can I get from local Health Store ? ( remember Canada is alot worst than the U.S.A for drugs......shit, i'll look it up)

edit-Just found - it's a herb.

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Old 01-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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no its not illegal man. Sorry i should have provided a link. Its just an herb, you should be able to get some.

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I have some. I still haven't used most of it cuz it makes me really nauseous. Did you ever get that, Hrdgain? (I actually broke down and encapsulated a bunch of it). I'm going to start taking those soon. Sorry to hyjack, TALO but how important do you think the whole empty stomach angle is on this, hrdgain?
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:43 AM
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Yeah I had to cap RR inorder to downit. or you can parachute it. (place your dose in the center of a tissue, twist it up, and drop it down to the gut)

Some people arent bothered by the taste, I was. I dont think I ever took it on an empty stomach, as i recall. It was always either right before or right after I ate. I dont know if thats optimal, but its better then it coming back up if it makes you naseous.
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I think it's mostly the astringency of it that produces the effect. I'll taking it after eating like you said. It didn't make me throw up it was just unpleasant to the point where I avoided the stuff. And that has to be pretty damn unpleasant for me. Thanx, hrdgain.
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Old 01-09-2007, 01:46 PM
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I've never had that, but I have had powered Macca. It made me puke and nothing effects me like that
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:06 PM
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I got my tamoxifen citrate today. The doctor gave me a 2 week supply of 20mg.
Would 10mg be ok to take, so that I can take it for longer ?
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What exactly do u tell your doctor to get some nolva?
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