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What I don't understand about NO products
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05-16-2008, 12:35 PM
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What I don't understand about NO products
The claim of NO products is that they dilate the blood vessels so more blood can get to the muscles and, thus, replenish them to a greater degree and quicker than without.
Here is what I don't understand: with my limited understanding of the body, I assume we have a finite supply of blood that is always in use. That is, there is no "reserve tank" where blood is stored until we need it.
So, if the NO products are opening the vessels, why don't ALL the vessels dilate? How does the body know which ones to do that to?
And, to me, the all-important question: If my arms and chest are all pumped with all this more-than-usual blood, where is it coming from? Are other body parts being short-changed of their supply of blood?
And when the blood leaves the area and gets back to the normal-width vessels, doesn't it back up? And if it didn't back up, I could envision a rapid increase in blood pressure to accommodate all the extra blood returning to its roots.
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05-16-2008, 01:53 PM
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I don't get it either. The whole business of what people say about PUMPS in general and blood saturating the muscle doesn't really make any sense to me. If you fill something up then that doesn't INCREASE the flow to it, lol. Like you said, you get a back up.
You fill up your septic tank and it ain't going to work better. You'll have sewage in your yard.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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05-16-2008, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric3237
I don't get it either. The whole business of what people say about PUMPS in general and blood saturating the muscle doesn't really make any sense to me. If you fill something up then that doesn't INCREASE the flow to it, lol. Like you said, you get a back up.
You fill up your septic tank and it ain't going to work better. You'll have sewage in your yard.
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Arnold paved the way for these "pump" supplements because everybody sees him in Pumping Iron talking about the infamous pump. NO2 is the biggest scam in supplements since what liquid creatine?
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05-16-2008, 06:33 PM
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Oh, I know, every time there is a thread that has any mention of a pump in it someone comes along and quotes Arnold  . Yeah, you know Arnold and his Phd in physiology...
Don't even get me started on liquid creatine. The last two tests I saw over at consumer lab on them...NO creatine found.
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05-17-2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BG5150
The claim of NO products is that they dilate the blood vessels so more blood can get to the muscles and, thus, replenish them to a greater degree and quicker than without.
Here is what I don't understand: with my limited understanding of the body, I assume we have a finite supply of blood that is always in use. That is, there is no "reserve tank" where blood is stored until we need it.
So, if the NO products are opening the vessels, why don't ALL the vessels dilate? How does the body know which ones to do that to?
And, to me, the all-important question: If my arms and chest are all pumped with all this more-than-usual blood, where is it coming from? Are other body parts being short-changed of their supply of blood?
And when the blood leaves the area and gets back to the normal-width vessels, doesn't it back up? And if it didn't back up, I could envision a rapid increase in blood pressure to accommodate all the extra blood returning to its roots.
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that's why I don't take those NO2 supps anymore. I did a test on myself. I had less than a 3rd of my NO Explode bottle left. I tried using it and then compared it to me when I wasn't taking it. so the remaining amount left compared to(after) when I wasn't taking it.
I can honestly say I didn't really need it. There's a huge write up on NO2 on this site. find it. it's soo helpful. all in all, you can make do without your NO2.
but im happy to tell people Ive had major gains in my work out. since October, ive dropped over 28lbs. Im now at 148lbs @ 11% bf. im only 5'7" yaaay for me!
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05-17-2008, 05:57 PM
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No??
The science to most NO products is found within it's contents. For example, can anyone tell me the active ingredient of NO products before we get started. Retorical question! The active ingredient is AAKG. I wont' get into what AAKG is right now, but I can tell you it works. If anyone has ever used AAKG "the correct way" Believe me...you will notice a difference in pumps versus taking no supplements at all. It's like working out without taking protien. Your body will not grow.
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05-17-2008, 09:08 PM
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I wont' get into what AAKG is right now, but I can tell you it works.
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You could've just said you have no idea. I think even the back of the supplement label gives a better explanation than you did.
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05-17-2008, 09:38 PM
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The science to most NO products is found within it's contents. For example, can anyone tell me the active ingredient of NO products before we get started. Retorical question! The active ingredient is AAKG. I wont' get into what AAKG is right now, but I can tell you it works. If anyone has ever used AAKG "the correct way" Believe me...you will notice a difference in pumps versus taking no supplements at all. It's like working out without taking protien. Your body will not grow.
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've read in the past month...especially the part I bolded. Thanks for the laugh
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05-18-2008, 03:18 AM
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It's funny how everyone that lifts is now a medical doctor. If your coming to this site for medical advise, you need to recheck you mental state. My advise, if you don't know how a product works...then don't take it or ask some with a little more proof than posting some words on a blog. Where's all the BB competitors?
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05-18-2008, 03:24 AM
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Dr. Ross86, please explain to me how the body grows...I sure all of us here would love to know your presepective. Please enlighten us on your scientific explanations of Bodybuilding and what is needed for the body to grow...I'm waiting.
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