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Hi everyone
This is my first post other then the member's into. Here is the question.
how do I get started planing a routine? I just read the thread about Vince's beginners routine, thats what I was going to start with. Is it a good place to start?
I'm 5'6"
205 Lbs (out of shape)
No lifting experience or knowledge
I'd like to reduce body fat
bulk up/ increase strength
Thanks Frank

well you seem to want everything. ;)
:33: I would say, and I know I might get flamed for saying this but, if you have no workout experience I would start with Max-OT, it is very basic and it's a good start to concentrate on specific groups without overlap, i.e. full body, upper/lower. Start with low weight and build up for 2 months then I would start with an upper/lower routine, (which can be found everywhere on this board), or the Pendulum training, and do that for about 2 more months after that you will probably have read sooo much stuff on this board and asked sooo many question that you will be able to start other training methods, OVT, GVT, etc. look at this sticky http://www.bodybuilding.net/training...-list-210.html for the Max -OT. Also, read up on diets. You can lift all you want, but you won't get anywhere without a good diet.

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I think I'll have to agree with that. Ultimately, there are better, more effecient training methods, but you should get great results with it at first (if you keep proper diet) and it may be even better since, as Dave said, there is not overlap in body parts.

Since you've never trained at all, it will be a very good way to learn what you are cabable of, your recovery capacity, etc. while still giving you a sort of cushion. You overdo it on one day, and that doesn't mean you can't hit the gym the next. Also, by the time you're done with it, you'll know what kind of weight you should be working with.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

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i second that... but if u ever happen to change ur mind about Max OT (in like 2 weeks may be), then DO NOT come to me... if u do, u'll only have access to hundreds of workout routines whcih i will generously supply u with - to the extent of which u will end up doing each one for 2 weeks...

so, listent to Dave + Eric and well, me...

all the best...

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I would spend the first 2 months just doing full body workouts, 3 days a weeks is good. This will get you familar with the equiptment and your body used to lifting something. It will also give you time to research routines and particulary diets which are the most important part of this sport.

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Thanks guys I really appreciate the advice. I will be on the sidelines reading and hopefully learning...(will keep you posted)
Frank