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Old 05-08-2007, 09:36 AM
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1x5 deads is appropriate. Deads are the most demanding metabolically. It is best to keep it down at first. It is how Rippetoe himself recommends. Later on a set or two can be added if recovery has improved enough.

The problem with more deadlifts is the way the volume is distributed. You'd have workout A being a whole lot more demanding than workout B which would be inappropriate for this program. BTW, I don't see how someone doing 135 on deads is going to turn around and do 135 on rows for 3 sets. It seems off. I understand about the squats if you are not used to A2G but for the rows it seems like a lot.

Just pick light to moderate weights on everything as Widdoes said(it should seem fairly easy at first) and go from there. Trying to find some perfect starting weight the first time you do this program just won't make a difference. On the other hand, screwing up and starting too heavy will ruin it. There is no real disadvantage to starting too light other than time spent accumulating (which can lead to MORE progress down the road).

Once you have gotten everything you can out of this and it is time for a new type of program then it will be more important to pick the appropriate strarting weights simply because you wouldn't want intensity to fall off too much.

Good luck on your injury and the program.
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:02 AM
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1x5 deads is appropriate. Deads are the most demanding metabolically. It is best to keep it down at first. It is how Rippetoe himself recommends. Later on a set or two can be added if recovery has improved enough.

The problem with more deadlifts is the way the volume is distributed. You'd have workout A being a whole lot more demanding than workout B which would be inappropriate for this program. BTW, I don't see how someone doing 135 on deads is going to turn around and do 135 on rows for 3 sets. It seems off. I understand about the squats if you are not used to A2G but for the rows it seems like a lot.

Just pick light to moderate weights on everything as Widdoes said(it should seem fairly easy at first) and go from there. Trying to find some perfect starting weight the first time you do this program just won't make a difference. On the other hand, screwing up and starting too heavy will ruin it. There is no real disadvantage to starting too light other than time spent accumulating (which can lead to MORE progress down the road).

Once you have gotten everything you can out of this and it is time for a new type of program then it will be more important to pick the appropriate strarting weights simply because you wouldn't want intensity to fall off too much.

Good luck on your injury and the program.

Thanks for your insight on this Eric I appreciate it. As for the rows being high, I have been doing rows as part of my workout for awhile now and thought that I could handle that weight. After some reconsideration I have decided to lower that weight a little and ease my way into the new routine and find the right weight for me. I am thinking about purchasing Rippetoe's books also off Amazon.com
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Old 05-14-2007, 04:22 PM
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Well I officially started the workout today and it was a really good workout. I thought I was going to struggle more with the ATG squats because I have never done them, but they felt very solid. Only thing that is iffy would be the deadlifts...I still got to work on proper form so im stickin light.

Workout A
3x5 Squat (ATG) - 135 lbs
3x5 Bench Press - 225 lbs
1x5 Deadlift - 135 lbs
2x20 Dips - bodyweight

Ab work: Decline sit-ups (1x55), Vertical Leg Raise (1x25), Dumbbell Side Bends (1x20)
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:16 PM
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When I started this program my bench press was also more then my squat and DL because I had never really done them B4. The good thing though is that If you keep at it your squat will naturally pass your bench since youll be squating 3 times a week. Ive also been able to make larger weight increases in my DL, ive been doing 5 - 10 -5 -10 - 5 etc. increases and now my DL is getting up there also.

I'm three weeks in and this program has been working for me.

Good luck
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:07 AM
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When I started this program my bench press was also more then my squat and DL because I had never really done them B4. The good thing though is that If you keep at it your squat will naturally pass your bench since youll be squating 3 times a week. Ive also been able to make larger weight increases in my DL, ive been doing 5 - 10 -5 -10 - 5 etc. increases and now my DL is getting up there also.

I'm three weeks in and this program has been working for me.

Good luck
When you say "5 - 10 - 5 - 10 - 5" do you mean you went up each workout by 5lbs then 10lbs then 5lbs? Because that is a question I had with this workout, I thought I was suppose to increase each of my lifts by 2.5lbs each workout??
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Ive been able to increase 5lbs each time. Its been 3 weeks and the only lift that ive been having trouble increasing is the standing military press, and now i feel the bench press increases are getting tough. As for the 5 - 10 -5 - 10 I've felt really good with the DL increases and some days I just felt great in the gym so I bumped it up 10 instead of 5 and kept going from there. The guys in here would probably not advise increasing this way but it just felt right for me so i did it.

I'm new to this type of routine so my strength gains have been great. If youve been lifting for a long time the increases will be more difficult so id say feel it out and see whats comfortable. I also started off low in order to work on my form.


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Old 05-16-2007, 04:50 PM
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Today was my first day of the B workout and it went well. I increased my squats by 10lbs and they felt strong.

Workout B
3x5 Squat (A2G) - 145 lbs
3x5 Standing military press - 95 lbs
3x5 Bent Rows - 115 lbs
2x8 Chinups

Ab work: Decline sit-ups (1x55), Vertical Leg Raise (1x25), Rope-Crunches (1x25)
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